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This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
Thanks Paul! Means a lot from someone with such nice plants haha.

Well by way of update, I had 10 more "Oh My Aching Back mix" sprouts ready for transplant. Apparently there is some controversy over when to transplant sprouts... So I'll post what I do, show pictures, and then everyone can make up their own mind. Any how, almost as soon as they pop, the entire soil cell (or peat pod) gets transplanted... As soon as the cotyledons are above the surface - bam - moved. Especially so when I have two seeds that sprout in the same cell (Unless I plant to approach graft, as I'll be doing with some of them down the line).

Never the less, I found out my soil is high in nitrogen and Phosphorous today. I was talking to a guy, and mentioned how much I hate stinging nettles, and that there was an area that had a significant number of them (I tilled them into my garden, because I figured at that point at least their decomposition would make them usefull for something - truely evil plants with basically hypodermic needles all over them... Touch them, and they stick in your skin, and don't break down... they must be removed with tape. I hate them beyond all reason.) back before I planted my garden on top of them. He said they only grow where soil is rich in N and P. So I googled it, and sure enough, they absorb excess N and P in the ground, and store it, until they are tilled back in, at which point they slow release it over time. Apparently some people even companion plant those evil things along with pepper plants, and for the same reason... Then at the end of the year, till the whole field, and leave them rot, replenishing the soil of those two nutrients.

I still hate them. But I'm glad I tilled them under :).

I also have a lot of clover, which also likes high nitrogen... Every year its a battle to kill it.

Ok for my updates: Oh my aching back pepper mix is up 80/150 now. Consolidating them down to a single 72 cell tray this afternoon!

7/9- Black Pearls are up, they popped as reallly really dark purple - stem to cotyledons... Its great.

5/9 Joes Long - whippets tail - are up... Looking forward to competing in the longest chilli competition.

2/9 chili de arbol. I had two sources on these, this variety came from Regal Peppers. got around 100 seeds free from them, but haven't been super impressed. Some of everything they sent germinated, but never all of them. I sent a number of their seeds off to the pepper swap - maybe some of you will have better luck. Speaking of, I also sent some of hinterlands seed off Amazon. It will definitely be interesting to see how they turn out. Pepper Joe's is another source for my seed this year, and I was happy with the germination rates. My (paid) last source of seed was Midwest chili heads. Great germination rates, and vigorous plants.

Pablano seed saved from last year (grown surrounded by seranos) came up well... 4/4 so far



The graft is looking good so far, all growth stopped on the scion when I grafted it onto the host (of course), and so I watch it every day for signs that its begun growing once more... So far nadda. Perhaps though the growth is more subtle... I should take a series of pictures over the course of the next several days, and make a time lapse.... see if anything really did change.... No promises... But it sounds like a fun photography project.

While I have my camera out, I'll take a picture of my Cayenne Pod... I think its gotten bigger again!! so excited for the first fruit of the year!


Also I might be slowing down a bit on variety and focusing on amping up production of one particular variety. I have all this land, if I can work out a way to at least pay for my personal garden with it (or even better, make enough to help with grad school next year!) then its worth doing.

I'm planting out a tray of Douglah x Trinidad Scorpion Butch T F2 seeds today - well, I'll start soaking them to day in any case. Should be interesting, its always fun to grow out F2s and see a wide assortment of genetics on display... Maybe I'll cross its offspring again with a moruga or bhut, or one of my other super hots... If I'm careful I can develop a few favorites along side each other. I like weird pod shapes, and I like variegated leaves.... Hoping for one of those, though the later is especially rare (and relatively impossible considering the leaves of the parents are the same color ;) ).But who knows... maybe I'll cross it with something else this next generation. Every time I talk with my Dad about my garden he keeps pushing me to make Bell pepper Hybrids... its funny... I'll mention a superhot, and he'd be like "That would make an awesome cross with a Bell Pepper". A few minutes later I'll mention one of the purple leaved varieties, and he says "that would make an awesome cross with a Bell Pepper". Later I'll mention Jalapenos and you guessed it "that would make an awesome cross with a Bell Pepper"... He's the reason I am growing a Mexibell (and also california wonder, and super heavy weight) this year.

Lastly for those of you following the tragedy of my windmill, Its back up and spinning happily. It desperately needs painted... I might do that today.
 
Thanks Beehunter!!

Mine came from the horses... Someone in the family started growing hay, and - as it turns out - had a field infested with them... Horses picked around them, but enough seed survived to start a huge issue. While I had the awesome tiller (did I post pictures of that? I'll have to check) from the rental center, I tilled every bit of it I could find back into the ground (clover too).

Being from Fl, we have a weird outlook regarding shoes... Seriously, check this link for my case and point: https://www.facebook...ups/2200247812/ . Which was why I was tilling in sandals... Which, as it turns out is a bad idea when you are tilling stinging nettles. I went through so much tape... Tape is the best way I've found to get rid of the nettles once you are stuck by them.
 
Your crossing experiments sound great. Will be interesting to see what
you eventually come up with! Have fun, man!
 
Thanks Paul! I'm pretty excited as well... I have three (known) hybrids going at the present moment ^^.

Also you are welcome John - didn't know you were here also - but i should have guessed ;).
 
Well in a moment of extreme annoyance, after having spent the last 45 minutes typing out a long update, my post didn't go through (thank you wireless internet).

Not going to re-invent the wheel here, but in a nutshell, I think my PH meter is busted, its reading 7.0 in pure peat which I thought was much more acidic than that. Most things I stick it into are 7.0 (other than tap water which reads 8.0 which is accurate - I know that because of my aquarium). Anyone know of peat being anything but acidic?

I HAVE GROWTH ON MY GRAFTED SCION /stoked/.

also about a dozen plants to pot up.

Sowed 36 douglah crosses (which my nephew wants me to call when stabilized Dougie's after the 80s fail rapper), 9 Butch T, 9 7pot Douglah, 9 bolivian rainbow (thanks megaspokaneman), and 9 moruga blend from wayright.

I'm going out to tend my plants, I'll take my camera and come back with pictures :)
 
*UPDATE 3/9 more added to the grow list*

Grow List:


C. Chinense
Pimenta de Neyda
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Maya Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
Amish Bush *added 3/9*
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili
cgn22792 *added 3/9*
CGN22792 aka Pi260478 *added 3/9*

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense

Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux
Pi1441654 *added 3/9*

Confirmed Hybrids

Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)
**After the 3/9 update I now have 112 varieties**

Also... Due to overwhelming interest in this thread, I've burned through about 10gb of bandwidth in the past week... I'll be working to migrate my pictures over to photobucket... My host for abondservant.com emailed me today saying enough is enough, they suspended me until I'm willing to upgrade my package!

Any way, here are the seeds that came in the mail today! Thank you both to Bonnie for the Pick-A-Pepper seed swap, and to Dan the man at Red Hawk Premium Peppers.
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Here is the Graft:
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Thats all for the pictures today... if I get a chance, I'll re-up my webhost, and then transfer the pictures out... haha. Not sure photobucket will last long either at 10gb in a couple weeks @.@
 
Wow! I almost jumped on the seed swap wagon too! I have enough...nice to have spares to send out to folks in need though. What all did you get? Looks like a TON of varieties. I see your updated grow list, very impressive!
 
Yeah I'm stoked about the seed swap - got 30 varieties back!! :)

I believe I'll be adding 500 plants of one particular variety, plus 300 tomatoes... Its going to be a busy (but hopefully somewhat profitable) year.

Ken

Plus I'm really grateful to Dan who sent some of the Rarer varieties IE the Galopagoense etc...

I was thrilled to hit the mailbox this morning and find all of the seeds - made my day :).
 
So stoked about the health of the graft... I think I'm going to put the peat pod in tupperware tomorrow so that its not getting any water from the surrounding soil... Watch for it to wilt - or not. I want to be sure its drawing off the host, and not from its own roots...

Loving the secondary growth on the host, and the flowers as well... going to keep picking those off... I want it to focus on healing the hole I cut in its side.

Also i'm considering a project where I more or less do a T-Bud graft... We'll see I suppose.

Night all!
Ken
 
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Digging the secondary growth.

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Looking forward to collecting all these future pods :D

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Same as the previous picture just from further out... Also it looks like rain, so the sky is grey and the light is weird, which is why the sky is a grey/white.

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Tiniest pepper I've ever grown... Came off my Thai Sun plant. It had been in partial shade for 6 months... I finally potted it up, and put it into the sun, and while the plant it self hasn't liked the move... the pods have finally started to ripen.

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pictures of sprouts

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Black pearl... I discovered super macro mode on my camera... its making things easier :D

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sprouts in cups

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The view to the north of my house.

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western view

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behind my mobile (western view).

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more of the northern side.
 
I was checking on my graft this evening, and the stem on one of the cotyledons has been nearly chewed in half! Same with a leaf (that fell off) on the host!!! Any Idea what this is or what to do?

the soil has been kind of moist - its been inside - so I took it outside and put down about 2 inches of dry peat on top of the moist soil... Planning to re-pot (Carefully) when I get home this evening, unless you guys have a better idea... Any way, here's a pre-peat pictures... I'll take a better one later, but if you look just above the tape you'll see two small cotys, and one is bent towards the ground... You can actually kinda see daylight through it in person... Looks like 80% of the stem was chewed through...



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Maybe an earwig...I found one of them on my graft this morning.

Your post got me wondering what that earwig was up to this morning..so I inspected my graft and figured out why it started to wilt. The stem has been severed. Sink or swim now I guess. Its still looks ok. Cotys are wilted a little, but the true leaves still look good. Only time will tell. I went ahead and took the peat pellet off the plant and I may put it out in the garage in a cabinet where it will be cool (60's) and dark for a few days...
 
ugh... I want to exterminate all bugs... at least any of them that like hot peppers.

I saw your picture - it looks good despite having been assaulted by nature.

For my first couple graft attempts, I manually kept the graft site moist. as soon as it started to wilt, I would put a drop of water on the site, and it would perk up for an hour or two...

if it looks worse in the morning than it does tonight, try putting some water on the site - just a drop - and use water thats had a chance to let the chlorine evaporate...
 
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