chile_freak said:
Actually the seedlings started in the sun would most likely be shorter and fuller. Especially if they topped them, just saying!
ok that i did not know, i thought they would stretch up to get the best light possible, but these plants arent topped that i can tell, they still only have a single stem, and new growth coming out of the top, if it was topped it would have two branches coming out of the sides and have that iconic Y shape correct?
FiveSix said:
I am interested. I recently cloned an old ornamental. it's at least 5 years but I think I got this plant in 2004(just not positive). It sat by a window and was only watered for that time. It flowers every christmas and still produces pods. I decided that this is the perfect indoor ornamental. It's vegetative again so I cloned it and plan on saving the seeds from the pods I get from the mother plant this summer.
Why would the genetics of the clone be any different? Could it have cross polinated giving you a mixed breed? what are you using to start the seeds. If it's rock wool you have to soak it for a day and then balance the PH. If it's peat you are risking mold/fungus and low PH. I can understand the second generation having slightly different genetics but not 6" plants. This is where I tap out and let those more in the know and sit and wait for an answer. Cause I will not waste 2 months growing an ornamental that tastes bitter than a nicer tasting variety. It's in a GH water farm hex. It's about to grow roots. It just sits in leca. For some reason I never was successful cloning in rock wool. The drip system seems to keep the plant humid and moist. I want to take seeds from the mother and keep the clone alive. The mother had a great life and I think it's time to put her down after the season. Maybe slightly impractical because I leave the air pump on 24/7 till I have roots. I am also thinking with the drip the plant might just take nutrients and barely root. Oh well, I'll find out soon enough.
Basically I'm interested in the feedback you (op) get about genetics and I'm just giving you my personal experience.
the seedlings i started are in peat, but i have never had issues with it, no mold, no fungus, no nasties at all. i boil water and set the peat pellets into that and let them sit for 10 minutes covered, i then take them out, put them into a sterile environment and leave them to cool, 24 hrs after they have been boiled i then plant my seeds in them, i try to keep everything sterile and that has had great results
the genes of a clone shouldnt be different at all, if you clone a plant, then essentially it is the exact same plant just a different pot, planting a seed from that plant however can have different genes, pods could be a little smaller, or taste a little different, plant can and most likely will grow a little different ect...... but a cutting from the mother plant will have exact same pods, same leafs, same taste, same everything.
geeme said:
The only thing I can think of is by looking at the stem. Newly-developed stems are still thin, very green and more flexible; they have a certain delicacy to them. Since a clone is cut from a branch, it would still have flexibility, but likely won't look quite as thin and delicate. But as noted above, a lot of leaves up and down the stem doesn't necessarily mean it is a clone if it was topped.
at the base of these they are starting to get that "woody" look so i guess they arent clones, im just amazed at how short the plants are, they are full and lush but midgets.