seeds Orange Cherry Bomb - do they ever germinate?

So there have been 2 peppers in my entire growing life, that just wouldn't do it for me.
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1) Fatalii Jigsaw (approximately 10-15% germination rate)
2) Orange Cherry Bomb (0% germination rate)
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The Fatalii jigsaw took 2 years to get one good plant to pop.  That plant was summarily wiped out in a hurricane.
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Orange Cherry bomb, however, is a bit of a nuisance.  3 years ago, I got a live plant.  It was raised in a hydroponic ebb and flow setup.  The plant was a huge success.  It quickly grew into a short shrub, with a main stem almost 3/4" in diameter.  The fruit were amazing.  Picture perfect, and thickwalled. So, as I normally do, I took some seed stock.  And every grow cycle since then, I've put them out, hoping to grow those beauties once more.
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However, in 3 years time, no single orange cherry bomb has EVER germinated.  Not one.  Black Jalapeno, Fresno, every other anuum that was supposed to be a pain, popped up without a hitch.  But not OCB.  IN fact, I was so agitated, that this year, I set out one big container, and planted out the remainder of my seed stock, all in one shot. (several dozen seeds)  That was a week ago.  Still not a single trace of hooks.  In less than 5 days, I already had cotys on Red Dom Habs and Aji Amarillo.
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So what the hell?  Is this just my bogey pepper?  Or is this plant sterile?
 
 
Naga Viper is one of mine.  Either it wont grow or it doesnt grow / pod right.  I got some to come up this year, we will see if they grow right.  So I know your pain brother, I know your pain.  It its like each pepper has its own deity and some just dont like us.
 
bob65 said:
I don't think that I would give up on a seed after only one week.
 
I don't give up on seeds after a week.
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I have had seeds that didn't germinate for over 30 days, in the past.
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But this isn't one of them.  These seeds are assholes.
 
AJ Drew said:
Naga Viper is one of mine.  Either it wont grow or it doesnt grow / pod right.  I got some to come up this year, we will see if they grow right.  So I know your pain brother, I know your pain.  It its like each pepper has its own deity and some just dont like us.
 
Yah...  Maybe it heard me say that I don't like the color orange. It's one of the few orange peppers that I've ever (intentionally) planted.  I have a distinct preference for red peppers. 
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That still doesn't excuse this behavior.
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I have a damn near 100% germination rate aside from these two, and I can't have them dragging me down.
 
solid7 said:
Orange Cherry bomb, however, is a bit of a nuisance.  3 years ago, I got a live plant.  It was raised in a hydroponic ebb and flow setup.  The plant was a huge success.  It quickly grew into a short shrub, with a main stem almost 3/4" in diameter.  The fruit were amazing.  Picture perfect, and thickwalled. So, as I normally do, I took some seed stock.  And every grow cycle since then, I've put them out, hoping to grow those beauties once more.
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However, in 3 years time, no single orange cherry bomb has EVER germinated.  Not one.  Black Jalapeno, Fresno, every other anuum that was supposed to be a pain, popped up without a hitch.  But not OCB.  IN fact, I was so agitated, that this year, I set out one big container, and planted out the remainder of my seed stock, all in one shot. (several dozen seeds)  That was a week ago.  Still not a single trace of hooks.  In less than 5 days, I already had cotys on Red Dom Habs and Aji Amarillo.
 
There is a good chance that you harvested the seeds before the pod was fully mature.  I think that with some of the boutique color varieties it can be really hard to discern between a pod being fully ripe and when the actual seeds are mature.  Maybe try to get some commercial seed stock or trade?
 
As others have said, a week isn't really long enough for some species, but for a C.annum it is getting close to the cutoff window.
 
My personal nemesis has been the Shabu Shabu Jolokia.  I received two sets of seeds a few years ago but one of the pods/sets had the appearance of being heat dried.  I've never been able to get either of the sets to germinate.
 
KingLeerUK said:
 
There is a good chance that you harvested the seeds before the pod was fully mature.  I think that with some of the boutique color varieties it can be really hard to discern between a pod being fully ripe and when the actual seeds are mature.  Maybe try to get some commercial seed stock or trade?
 
As others have said, a week isn't really long enough for some species, but for a C.annum it is getting close to the cutoff window.
 
My personal nemesis has been the Shabu Shabu Jolokia.  I received two sets of seeds a few years ago but one of the pods/sets had the appearance of being heat dried.  I've never been able to get either of the sets to germinate.
 
I suppose that I could consider that as a possibility.  My mouth says otherwise, and the seeds should have had at least one germination out of all of that I planted.   But again, I do concede that it's not beyond the pail of possibility.
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I'm not sure why anyone thought that I was giving up after a week.  I was simply pointing out that most all of my seeds are showing twin blades by day 5, and these bastards were 7 days in, and not even interested in breaking surface.  I'll actually leave them in for a full month, before I consider them fertilizer for the next batch of seeds. :D
 
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