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harvesting how ripe before harvesting seeds?

how "ripe" does a pepper have to be before the seeds are viable? for instance, can the seeds from a green jalapeno be used for planting next season?
i have some poblanos that are appx. 3" long and have not increased in size for 2.5 weeks. they are still green. i picked them and want to keep seeds. will they germinate?
 
razyrsharpe said:
so edible does not = ripe, eh?

The longer you wait the better, no such thing as too ripe when it comes to seeds. Just pick a pod and leave it on the plant until it stops changing, then you should be good to go. Immature seeds tend to be a little lighter/whiter in color than mature seeds for most plants, pepper seeds are pretty light in color anyways though so that may not be a good indication of the viability of the seed.
 
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