Canadians, Have you heard of this

[DickT]

Knowledge is Power part 2

Note: this is not a political thread : i'm just wondering if the people in Canada were aware of what's going on. Are there any members on THP from Mexico? Did anyone else ever hear of this, or have you seen any thing about this in the news. It's very interesting. If you happen to watch this clip, when you are done, keep in the back of your mind the word " systematic "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA

[klyth]

This footage is a couple years old.

[Davetaylor]

not watched the link but i'm gonna guess that it's the 'internet will end in 2012.' only because it pops up every now and then

[Sickmont]

No its the whole "North American Union" thing again. I'm not so sure i'd believe all this conspiracy theory stuff. For one thing, Mexico and Canada would have nothing to gain from it at all.

[DickT]

No its the whole "North American Union" thing again. I'm not so sure i'd believe all this conspiracy theory stuff. For one thing, Mexico and Canada would have nothing to gain from it at all.

They started minting the Amero last year, I personally can't see it happening either, especially since it has not been in the mainstream media as I am a news junkie. I did hear the other day that Mexican Truckers are now allow full passage to US highways.

[Sickmont]

They started minting the Amero last year, I personally can't see it happening either, especially since it has not been in the mainstream media as I am a news junkie. I did hear the other day that Mexican Truckers are now allow full passage to US highways.

But it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Think about it, our economy is so much bigger than Mexico's that we'd basically absorb them and they'd lose a good chunk of their national identity(which a lot of that comes from minting your own coinage. It's a sign of sovereignty). And the same thing with Canada, but on a smaller level. They'd gain nothing from it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

Besides, why mint new coinage to honor us cedeing our monetary sovereignty to an unaccountable committee of people when WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT? It's called the Federal Reserve.

[Txclosetgrower]

They started minting the Amero last year, I personally can't see it happening either, especially since it has not been in the mainstream media as I am a news junkie. I did hear the other day that Mexican Truckers are now allow full passage to US highways.

Yeah, this has been going on for awhile now. I probably see a lot more of it than you though because I live in Texas.

[GrumpyBear]

they've been talking about it for decades, we talked about it in my history of canadian economy class. when the canadian dollar was bottoming out around 60 cents proponents were saying its the time to do it because we wouldn't lose our competitive advantage in manufacturing, now they say its the right time cuz we won't lose purchasing power. i don't think its ever a good time cuz canada needs to come to terms with the fact we're a 'spoke' to the us 'hub'...
by the way, its not really 'merging' the countries, its more like a customs union...

[Sickmont]

.... canada needs to come to terms with the fact we're a 'spoke' to the us 'hub'...
by the way, its not really 'merging' the countries, its more like a customs union...

Exactly. But a customs union wouldn't require new coinage either. Or rather it shouldn't. One coin = one bank = one monetary policy....and guess who's banking system and monetary policy would be the one thats utilized? Thats right. The U.S.' would be. Not a pleasant thought for you guys, is it?

[GrumpyBear]

it all depends on how far they go with it, when its one huge country and two smaller countries its tricky, lower trade barriers cause industries that have significant transportation costs to locate in the larger market, if there's a shared currency that isn't much different from just plain ol' dollarization in this case (conceivably monetary policy is controlled by a central authority involving all three countries but we all know the us will get the bigger say) and if they go so far as to increase labour market mobility you'll see an even bigger 'brain drain' than we see now...

[Sickmont]

Well, it seems to me that the SPP was intended and meant to be more of a NAFTA type of situation(opening up borders to trade), but somebody got a hold of the whole amero thing and tied it into the SPP and the conspiracy theories started flying(probably because of the shared security issues). I don't think it'll go much farther than it has already, though. I really can't see Canada going along with anything beyond that at all.

[DickT]

Yeah, this has been going on for awhile now. I probably see a lot more of it than you though because I live in Texas.

Are you saying you have seen an Amero? I heard of this awhile ago, but i was listening to a talk radio a truck driver from Texas said he had seen these things and I had remembered the NAU thing from about a year ago. The whole thing sounds really far out and I know the amarican public would not be for it, but if they are minting an Amero coin it makes one wonder. Could NAFTA be some sort of phase one to such a union. I also heard that Mexican trucks only came 25 miles into the US tpo drop there loads off at a depot. Now I'm hearing they can roam free.

[Sickmont]

Are you saying you have seen an Amero? I heard of this awhile ago, but i was listening to a talk radio a truck driver from Texas said he had seen these things and I had remembered the NAU thing from about a year ago. The whole thing sounds really far out and I know the amarican public would not be for it, but if they are minting an Amero coin it makes one wonder. Could NAFTA be some sort of phase one to such a union. I also heard that Mexican trucks only came 25 miles into the US tpo drop there loads off at a depot. Now I'm hearing they can roam free.

I think he's saying he's heard more about it than you. As for the trucks, i'll do some checking to find out. Last time i heard(and that was a couple of years ago)a couple of OTR's i know said they still stop you at the border of Canada and make you drop your load. Then a Canadian truck driver picks it up and carries it on in.

[Sickmont]

Here's some FAQ's about the SPP:

http://www.spp.gov/myths_vs_facts.asp

[DickT]

Here's some FAQ's about the SPP:

http://www.spp.gov/myths_vs_facts.asp

Thanks for the link, good stuff, I understand how things get blown out of proportion.

[imaguitargod]

Way old news. It's basically another step twords the New World Order. They keep saying their are going to do it...and one day, they probably will.

[GrumpyBear]

I really can't see Canada going along with anything beyond that at all.

harper is the us's errand boy.
the last prime minister in bed with the states like this was the same prime minister who sued canada after his term had ended. real patriot.
i miss trudeau, he switched us to the metric system just to stick it to the states. i think we should switch to metric time next...

[Sickmont]

the last prime minister in bed with the states like this was the same prime minister who sued canada after his term had ended. real patriot.


Nice. Who's voting these clowns in anyways?

[chilehunter]

For one thing, Mexico and Canada would have nothing to gain from it at all.

But it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Think about it, our economy is so much bigger than Mexico's that we'd basically absorb them and they'd lose a good chunk of their national identity(which a lot of that comes from minting your own coinage. It's a sign of sovereignty). And the same thing with Canada, but on a smaller level. They'd gain nothing from it.



they have nothing to gain :shocked:
I think not, they would have alot to gain! for one isnt the usa dollar more than theirs ? & the usa would have to cover some of their bills since our economy could do it & a much stronger one compared to those 2 countries.

I'd have to say its not a matter of "if" but more like "when" it'll happen.
canada & mexico have alot to gain, its usa that'd have more to loose! IMO

[Sickmont]

they have nothing to gain :shocked:
I think not, they would have alot to gain! for one isnt the usa dollar more than theirs ? & the usa would have to cover some of their bills since our economy could do it & a much stronger one compared to those 2 countries.

I'd have to say its not a matter of "if" but more like "when" it'll happen.
canada & mexico have alot to gain, its usa that'd have more to loose! IMO

I think its a bad idea. Yeah we'd cover their bills but they'd also be saddled with ours. It exposes them to much more risk then they'd usually take on or even think about. Basically they'd be more or less fiscally annexed. So then it'd be that much easier for companies like Walmart to walk right in and crush everything in their sight and force themselves on everyone in North America AND possibly increase the risk of outsourcing as well. And whos to say the Canadians and Mexicans WANT to be merged(or should i say more properly annexed) with the USA. anyways?