The Endorphin Rush

[imaguitargod]

Ok, I myself have experienced the wounders of the hot pepper endorphin rush and love it. But Don't know much about it. I have heard that the endorphins are only released on the second taste of capsaicin. Is this true?

[chiliman]

Hey, I was doing research for my Chili booth theme (Dr. Chili PhD) and came across this expaination from a Neurochemisty term paper about the whole endorphin deal. It says nothing though about second taste.

http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_001/papers/manuscripts/_559.html

[darlochileman]

Ive just written a guide for the chileman site which talks about this very subject. I'll post it on here soon.

mark

[Tina Brooks]

I had an endorphin rush the first time I ever bit into an habanero.

I'd been eating jalapenos by then for years, so, it wasn't my first taste of cap that gave me the rush, but it sure wasn't only the second.

From my understanding of it regardless of whether or not we notice it, there is an automatic endorphin rush. The more accustomed we are to eating the pepper, the less impactful the endorphin rush. The neurochemistry of it is quite interesting though.

T

[tpowell25]

what about the people who endorphins dont work right..

:lol:

[Tina Brooks]

what about the people who endorphins dont work right..

:lol:

What do you mean... like people with chemical imbalances, that sort of thing?

T

[tpowell25]

lol yea sort of,

[Tina Brooks]

Hot Sauce, the anti-depressant of the 21st Century!

Kinda makes you wonder, though.

T

[imaguitargod]

It says nothing though about second taste.

http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_001/papers/manuscripts/_559.html
GREAT papper! Read it before I went to bed last night. It actually does mention the second taste thing(but in a way that was slightly different then what my friend said). It basically said that after the first taste the pain/pleasure recepter pathways become charged and that when another taste is administered that changes the pH then you get a five fold reaction increase. You still get an endorphin rush on the first try, but you'll get a bigger rush on the second go around.

[tinner666]

I must be doing something wrong then. Since my first taste and rush from Ground Zero, NaDa. :shock: Other than Final Answer, which I'm getting used to. And when I take 2 seperate tastes of it, the second doesn't even seem as hot. :?
When I O.D. on hot sauce, I only get PAIN, as the time when I spilled a lot of Ultimate Insanity in a bowl of stew. :lol:
Oh well, the rush has nothing on the taste of a good sauce! :D

[imaguitargod]

I must be doing something wrong then. Since my first taste and rush from Ground Zero, NaDa. :shock: Other than Final Answer, which I'm getting used to. And when I take 2 seperate tastes of it, the second doesn't even seem as hot. :?
When I O.D. on hot sauce, I only get PAIN, as the time when I spilled a lot of Ultimate Insanity in a bowl of stew. :lol:
Oh well, the rush has nothing on the taste of a good sauce! :D
That just means that you have built up a tolerance and are less likely to feel that much pain/pleasure. Like I said, the paper that was linked to basically explaned it all. You should read it, it's very insightful.

And after checking out other articles today, I would have to say that it's right on the money.

[chiliman]

Thanks to the God of Guitar for the fine words on my paper link. I did not catch the second taste thing (I read fast and inaccuratly! Party!)

While we are all sharing, I had my first after eating a particularly large and hot Jalapeno at work. I was a pleasure to work with, what with all the vivid colors and the world being so very bright. Not at all like my other "first time". Way less begging, crying and shame with the Jalapeno one. Anyway, shared to much, must punish self.

[Tina Brooks]

This place is becoming very scary.

I heard about this group in the States. Call themselves pepper surfers or Cap surfers... something like that.

They eat hot peppers, one after the other, until they get stoned, then they keep eating them to see how long they can stay stoned.

Hot peppers: the only legal psychotropic drug... Where is Timothy Leary when you need him???

T

[ChefEx]

Don't eat the brown hab's....don't eat the brown hab's... 8)

[imaguitargod]

Hot peppers: the only legal psychotropic drug... Where is Timothy Leary when you need him???'
Actually there are many legal ones. You just have to search.(ie: San Pedro cactus, wormwood, etc etc) ;)

I have heard of the cap high as well and have done it myself once or twice...It's intense and groovy! The best one I had was when I ate a whole grilled Carabbean Red Hot(seeds and all)....wow that one hurt but after a bit was well worth it! Like the article syas, the pleasure receptures kick in after a short bit.

Don't eat the brown hab's....don't eat the brown hab's... 8)
lol.

[Tina Brooks]

Don't eat the brown hab's....don't eat the brown hab's... 8)

LOL!!

T

[bubbaschili]

pepperstock???? :shock:

[imaguitargod]

pepperstock???? :shock:
Pfffffttt!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!

[Tina Brooks]

Bubba! You have just named my Pepper Festival!!!

T

[darlochileman]

Hi everyone

After the other nights run in with the Nagas and the joys of 'Hunan hand', he is a copy of the guide I decided to put together on Chile heat, endorphin rushes etc etc:

http://www.thechileman.org/guide_heat.php

Please Please where gloves when working with hot chiles. Don't make the mistake I did!!

Mark

[Tina Brooks]

For what it's worth.

If 1 part per million of capsaicin times fifteen = 1 Scoville Unit, then 1,000,000 parts per million of capsaicin times fifteen = 15,000,000.

Where do you get 16,000,000 from???

T

[bubbaschili]

Bubba! You have just named my Pepper Festival!!!

T
i wish the prize for naming it would be a all expenced paid trip to pepperstock. :lol:
nahhhhhh all i want is a tye dyed pepper shirt size 5xl

[Tina Brooks]

Bubba! You have just named my Pepper Festival!!!

T
i wish the prize for naming it would be a all expenced paid trip to pepperstock. :lol:
nahhhhhh all i want is a tye dyed pepper shirt size 5xl

If we get the Government Grant... You can be our official CASI Rep, and we will bring you up for the Chili Cookoff!

T

[imaguitargod]

Where do you get 16,000,000 from???
China.

:lol:
http://www.thechileman.org/guide_heat.php
" The obvious method to stress your plants is to get the wife to sit in your green house and talk to your plants on a regular basis."
ROFLMAO!!!! Nice line!

[bubbaschili]

i thought 16 million in china was just a good start
(rim shot)

[Tina Brooks]

Where do you get 16,000,000 from???
China.



:lol:

lol!

Can you tell that 16 million number drives me nuts???

T

[bubbaschili]

tina i found your shirt for pepperstock

Pepperstock T-shirt (http://cgi.ebay.com/HOT-CHILI-PEPPERS-SWIRL-TIE-DYE-T-SHIRT-NEW_W0QQitemZ8407071066QQcategoryZ15687QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[DEFCON Creator]

I can totally understand your frustration Tina. 16 million CAD to 1 little USD. LOL!!! :lol:

[imaguitargod]

tina i found your shirt for pepperstock

Pepperstock T-shirt (http://cgi.ebay.com/HOT-CHILI-PEPPERS-SWIRL-TIE-DYE-T-SHIRT-NEW_W0QQitemZ8407071066QQcategoryZ15687QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
:: Staires at screen...looses track of time ::
My friend/roomate is a fractle artist and that one reminds me of one of his:
http://www.artbycomputer.com/Jon'sLoveComposite.jpg

[chiliman]

Bubba, No 5xl who do they think they are. Nice shirt though.

Hey, Canadia is an awfully long way to go for a cook off (but if I'm not there, you got a shot). Did you know that everything there goes in the opposite direction. Like flushing toilets and stuff. Just sayin!

[bubbaschili]

man that is freaky looking guitar

vic if everthing gose a different way how do they have sex in canada???

[imaguitargod]

man that is freaky looking guitar

You sould see his other stuff...http://www.artbycomputer.com/gallery1.html,he's the only large formate fractle artist on the net. :wink:

[chiliman]

(said in a hushed whisper) they don't have "the sex" up there, they split like ameoba's. Little known scientific fact. And they come with a maple leaf on their chest like superman. Tina would tell you but they are not allowed.

Hey Guitar God, one time I fractaled my ankle. (Apologie's to all who read that, I am a sucker for the dumb joke)

[Tina Brooks]

OMG, Chiliman! You're so NOT supposed to tell anyone that!!! That's like a National Secret! Like the fact that we have nuclear power... Ooopsie, did I say that out loud??? :shock:

T

[chiliman]

Tina, I'm working the short attention span route with the Hot Pepper Board folks. Most of us guys will have forgotten that new info the minute they see a Hooters commercial. In fact, what was I talking about (aboot).

[DEFCON Creator]

OMG, Chiliman! You're so NOT supposed to tell anyone that!!! That's like a National Secret! Like the fact that we have nuclear power... Ooopsie, did I say that out loud??? :shock:

T

And the fact the Montreal Canadians hockey team is owned by an American company. :lol:

[Tina Brooks]

And the fact the Montreal Canadians hockey team is owned by an American company. :lol:

Shows what YOU know...

It's Montreal CanadiEns!

T

[DEFCON Creator]

Actually, there is a correction in order, since it's now an American team, it's Canadians, they're just currently using their throwback jerseys. :lol:

Oh, and doesn't Coors own Molson now? :shock:

[Tina Brooks]

Actually, there is a correction in order, since it's now an American team, it's Canadians, they're just currently using their throwback jerseys. :lol:

Oh, and doesn't Coors own Molson now? :shock:

You can have Molson, it's a crappy beer. Btw... that's the one that's called "Canadian"

As for the Habs... touch the E and you die.

T

[imaguitargod]

as for the Habs... touch the E and you die.:: runs over and writes 'habanero' on a piece of paper... touches the letter 'e' with index finger ::

[Tina Brooks]

as for the Habs... touch the E and you die.:: runs over and writes 'habanero' on a piece of paper... touches the letter 'e' with index finger :: :roll: :doh:

[DEFCON Creator]

:lol:

[Tina Brooks]

I'm telling Maggie, you're talking politics again. :p

[DEFCON Creator]

I'm telling Maggie, you're talking politics again. :p

HA! Slow assimilation of another country is not politics, it's reality. Not unlike our sauces, slow and steady wins the globe!

[Tina Brooks]

I suppose.

I heard you guys were going after Iran, now. I figure one of these days you'll figure it out and go after a country with sustainable natural resources instead of another oil barrel in the middle of the desert. ;)

Doesn't anyone wonder what happens if Bush loses in Iraq???

T

[DEFCON Creator]

Now THAT's politics! :evil:

[imaguitargod]

Doesn't anyone wonder what happens if Bush loses in Iraq???
No one wins when it comes to war. :wink:

So I had to explane the endorphan rush to someone at a bar last night and he understood it....yaaaa me!

:: swings topic back to endorphans and their relative the endolphins ::

[Tina Brooks]

Doesn't anyone wonder what happens if Bush loses in Iraq???
No one wins when it comes to war.

Too true, but how many American women do you know who want to wear a Burkha???

T

[DEFCON Creator]

Doesn't anyone wonder what happens if Bush loses in Iraq???
No one wins when it comes to war.

Too true, but how many American women do you know who want to wear a Burkha???

T

LOL!!! Tina, do you actually wear one of those things? I know it gets colsd up there, but it's not really a fashion statement. I do hear however, they are all the rage in France. :lol:

[DEFCON Creator]

Too true, but how many American women do you know who want to wear a Burkha???


LOL!!! Tina, do you actually wear one of those things? I know it gets cold up there, but it's not really a fashion statement. I do hear however, they are all the rage in France. :lol:

[Tina Brooks]

That was so funny you had to say it twice???

Ask Maggie how she feels about wearing a Burkha. :p

T

[darlochileman]

Quote:
If 1 part per million of capsaicin times fifteen = 1 Scoville Unit, then 1,000,000 parts per million of capsaicin times fifteen = 15,000,000.

Where do you get 16,000,000 from???


Maths never was my strong point!!

Mark :cry: :cry: :cry:

PS Im from the UK so Im keeping out of the Canadian/US debate. :wink:

[Tina Brooks]

Quote:
If 1 part per million of capsaicin times fifteen = 1 Scoville Unit, then 1,000,000 parts per million of capsaicin times fifteen = 15,000,000.

Where do you get 16,000,000 from???


Maths never was my strong point!!

Mark :cry: :cry: :cry:

PS Im from the UK so Im keeping out of the Canadian/US debate. :wink:

Misinformed chiliheads the world over are typing into their websites that pure capsaicin is 16,000,000 Scoville Units.

Feel free to remain out of the debate; this isn't the UN after all. lol Don't mind me and John. I'm a Libertarian Canadian and he's a Republican American... and it's just too easy. :)

T

[DEFCON Creator]

It most certainly is too easy, like taking candy away from the defenseless. :lol:

euphoria dementia vs. reality.

[Tina Brooks]

yep... I'm demented and YOU have to let people riffle through your underwear without you being present.

I'd rather be demented. :D

T

[imaguitargod]

yep... I'm demented and YOU have to let people riffle through your underwear without you being present.
That's just an average Saturday night for me. ;)