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fineexampl
07-08-2008, 04:28 PM
I did say it was totally off the weird scale!i'll see your egg and raise you one "harkarl".

Canuk Pepperhead
07-08-2008, 05:05 PM
When you think about it its fully cooked id try it over dog anyday lol

Davetaylor
07-08-2008, 05:15 PM
When you think about it its fully cooked id try it over dog anyday lol

You don't get any feathers or beak on a dog though!
There's some stuff about it on youtube that is interesting

Canuk Pepperhead
07-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Harkarl It is poisonous shark that has been killed, buried in gravel by the seaside for months, dug up, hung to dry for ponderous amounts of time and then cubed...naaaa think ill try the dog lol

Canuk Pepperhead
07-08-2008, 05:42 PM
You don't get any feathers or beak on a dog though!
There's some stuff about it on youtube that is interesting

I was refering to the harkarl Davetaylor the balut actually doesnt sound that bad when you think about it it is cooked..What id really love to try is a traditional haggis..The highland games are coming up and I might go this year..Ive always wanted to go but it used to be nothing more than a big drunk for the teens.OPP(Ontario Provincial Police) has stepped in and made things alot more strict.I know they sell it there but dont know if its made with intestines or something else.Maby ill get to see how clan Gordon does this year

Canuk Pepperhead
07-08-2008, 05:54 PM
anchovies are delicious in moderation.
Maby its the type ive tried but it tastes like a mouthfull of salt with every bite

fineexampl
07-08-2008, 07:49 PM
I was refering to the harkarl Davetaylor the balut actually doesnt sound that bad when you think about it it is cooked..What id really love to try is a traditional haggis..The highland games are coming up and I might go this year..Ive always wanted to go but it used to be nothing more than a big drunk for the teens.OPP(Ontario Provincial Police) has stepped in and made things alot more strict.I know they sell it there but dont know if its made with intestines or something else.Maby ill get to see how clan Gordon does this yearIntestines? I believe haggis is stomach stuffed with grains and organs, no? I'm of Scottish heritage and probably should know, but i really don't. I'd give it a go though. Sounds very bland. Might need hot sauce. :lol: Hmm...now when is the Scottish festival??

Maybe its the type I've tried but it tastes like a mouthful of salt with every biteWell they are salty. That's part of the experience. Fishy saltiness. I use them in my pasta sauces as a secret ingredient. I'd never eat them by themselves though. That's just too much.

Canuk Pepperhead
07-08-2008, 08:28 PM
Intestines? I believe haggis is stomach stuffed with grains and organs, no? I'm of Scottish heritage and probably should know, but i really don't. I'd give it a go though. Sounds very bland. Might need hot sauce. Hmm...now when is the Scottish festival??
actually you are on the button there..Still want to try it
http://www.glengarryhighlandgames.com/
peeps from all over the world come to this its simpally amazing considering its hosted in a town with maby 1000 ish people living there

Davetaylor
07-09-2008, 05:06 AM
Haggis basically lamb offal liver, kidneys, heart. But every butcher will have his own recipie and may leave out or swap amounts of things around.
So all this is mixed with oatmeal and spices, and put into lambs intestine and then boiled.
The problem with it is if you've never tried it and you try one that isn't very good then it'll put you off, but when you know what a good one tastes like you'll want more.
A good one should be spicy.
I've tried it mixed with a bit of the chileman's naga snakebite, and haggis and hot sauce is very tasty

bentalphanerd
07-09-2008, 05:24 AM
i thought it was cooked inside a sheeps stomach...either way I like the idea, never tried it but I enjoy most offal. strong gamey flavor & full of Vit B's to counteract my elbow bending habits.

rainbowberry
07-09-2008, 05:46 AM
I also thought it was cooked in a sheeps stomach.

bentalphanerd
07-09-2008, 07:18 AM
I mean, it could be worse, could be using the bladder. :D

stillmanz
07-09-2008, 07:22 AM
alot of lung in haggis... the texture is a bit to get used to but smothered in hot sauce could make much tastier.

fineexampl
07-09-2008, 07:28 AM
come to think of it, i know a place that sells frozen Haggis over in PA. i'd be willing to try it. also NJ has a large Scottish community a few counties north. Hmmmmm....

bentalphanerd
07-09-2008, 07:30 AM
not sure i'm game enough to go near frozen haggis :lol:

Davetaylor
07-09-2008, 08:43 AM
not sure i'm game enough to go near frozen haggis :lol:

Living in england fresh haggis is hard to get but some butchers do 'import' and freeze it and as long as it's fully defrosted before you use it it's fine.
As it's been cooked already you can eat it 'raw'
and stillmanz is correct in saying there is lung in there too,
but as i said every butcher will use different amounts of the ingredients.
It's is great sliced and fried/grilled as part of a good fried breakfast

Sickmont
07-09-2008, 09:18 AM
I had haggis once, and honestly, it had a pasta-like consistency with kind of a 'beef-ish' taste going on. Not too bad, actually.

fineexampl
07-09-2008, 04:29 PM
Living in england fresh haggis is hard to get but some butchers do 'import' and freeze it and as long as it's fully defrosted before you use it it's fine.
As it's been cooked already you can eat it 'raw'
and stillmanz is correct in saying there is lung in there too,
but as i said every butcher will use different amounts of the ingredients.
It's is great sliced and fried/grilled as part of a good fried breakfastI don't care what's in it so long as the consistency isn't wiggly or weird. I'm going to buy one next time i see it. I'll report back. I'll even take pics. :cool:

chilehunter
07-09-2008, 11:35 PM
I don't care what's in it so long as the consistency isn't wiggly or weird. I'm going to buy one next time i see it. I'll report back. I'll even take pics. :cool:


wiggly or weird, I'd have to say weird!
the ingredients for haggis sounds like what you'd feed to the dogs! no wonder why you have to throw alot of spice into it to make it edible :rolleyes:
I dont know about you folks here, but why eat organs when ya could eat the nice meaty muscle parts of the animal ? some nice juicy steaks :drooling:
no wonder haggis needs alot of spice put into it, just to kill the flavor of the organs. if I was starving yea I'd eat it, but why I can go eat a nice thick steak instead & give haggis ingredients as a treat for the dog :lol:

Omri
07-10-2008, 05:04 AM
wiggly or weird, I'd have to say weird!
the ingredients for haggis sounds like what you'd feed to the dogs! no wonder why you have to throw alot of spice into it to make it edible
I dont know about you folks here, but why eat organs when ya could eat the nice meaty muscle parts of the animal ? some nice juicy steaks
no wonder haggis needs alot of spice put into it, just to kill the flavor of the organs. if I was starving yea I'd eat it, but why I can go eat a nice thick steak instead & give haggis ingredients as a treat for the dog
Organs are much tastier than muscles. just take a look at animals hunting. the first to arrive eats the organs, then the fatty meat, then the thinner one and then what's left.
Gimme anything! heart, liver, lungs and pretty much anything else, I'll eat it. some people even eat the spinal cord. ;)
BTW I love haggis, but I get mine from a butcher I know who makes it. don't buy it frozen. :shocked:

fineexampl
07-10-2008, 10:11 AM
I told my girl i might want to try making a haggis myself. It doesn't sound hard, but i'm more concerned with dealing with the suet and cleaning the stomach properly.

bentalphanerd
07-10-2008, 10:14 AM
I told my girl i might want to try making a haggis myself. It doesn't sound hard, but i'm more concerned with dealing with the suet and cleaning the stomach properly.

yeah - i think making it yourself would be hard-core. Gotta be real careful when dealing with offal. Offal is what gets sliced open to check for disease in the animal. It's a good thing to learn those signs.

fineexampl
07-10-2008, 10:19 AM
yeah - i think making it yourself would be hard-core. Gotta be real careful when dealing with offal. Offal is what gets sliced open to check for disease in the animal. It's a good thing to learn those signs.Well, i live in an area with a pretty large Jewish population (as well as Indian and other eastern nationalities) so i'm almost positive i can find a good butcher to supply me with a safe to eat sheep stomach. I could probably get much of the stuff cleaned and prepped and ready to use.

bentalphanerd
07-10-2008, 10:32 AM
cool mate - just so long as you know what you're getting into there. Myself I'm a nut for sauteed sheep kidneys...but gotta slice each one open to look for spots/discoloration before it hits the pan.

fineexampl
07-10-2008, 10:56 AM
cool mate - just so long as you know what you're getting into there. Myself I'm a nut for sauteed sheep kidneys...but gotta slice each one open to look for spots/discoloration before it hits the pan.The recipe i'm eyeballing actually has you cut up all the bits to precook them before you actually boil it. either way, i have a feeling i'd be able to make a haggis taste awesome. I'm thinking dark beer boil??

rainbowberry
07-10-2008, 11:09 AM
I'm starting to feel ill reading all this. I suppose though it's no different to people I've heard of that eat tripe or jellied eels, my aunts and uncles are all cockneys (come from the East End of London) and eat jellied eels with mash and liquor :sick:

fineexampl
07-10-2008, 11:14 AM
I'm starting to feel ill reading all this. I suppose though it's no different to people I've heard of that eat tripe or jellied eels, my aunts and uncles are all cockneys (come from the East End of London) and eat jellied eels with mash and liquor :sick:I could die happy just living on your style bacon. I buy it in bulk and freeze it. I have one pack left. I'm in need of a refill.

rainbowberry
07-10-2008, 11:27 AM
What kind of bacon? We have a few cuts like streaky bacon, back bacon, middle bacon (usually with rind on) and then you get these smoked (oak, hickory, applewood), and unsmoked. I'm going by the supermarkets though not the butchers, I bet they do a better variety.

fineexampl
07-10-2008, 11:55 AM
What kind of bacon? We have a few cuts like streaky bacon, back bacon, middle bacon (usually with rind on) and then you get these smoked (oak, hickory, applewood), and unsmoked. I'm going by the supermarkets though not the butchers, I bet they do a better variety.Just your normal style back bacon, unsmoked. Streaky bacon is US style bacon, which is also good, but not considered "proper" bacon as it's said. :) Like this...
http://www.igourmet.com/images/products/150irishbacon.jpg

rainbowberry
07-10-2008, 12:04 PM
That's the bacon I buy too, I just avoid the cheap ones for decent bacon as they contain a lot of water.

klyth
07-10-2008, 12:08 PM
I have a feeling that in many cases the "oddest type of meat," will be regionally specific.

In my case it might be gaggers, or hot weiners. They're native to RI, and quite hard (or impossible) to find outside of RI. They look similar to small hot dogs, but they are totally different. They're spiced, and they use different meats.

They're typically served "all the way." That means: Chili sauce (it's like ground beef pan fried with chili powder and other spices), diced onions, mustard and celery salt.

Not the best picture, but here's the real deal:
http://images.suite101.com/263425_pict0059.jpg

fineexampl
07-10-2008, 01:11 PM
Here's an article on skata.
http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_life/?cat_id=28038&ew_0_a_id=297135

Nothing like fermented smelly skate for dinner!

chilehunter
07-10-2008, 07:48 PM
Organs are much tastier than muscles. just take a look at animals hunting. the first to arrive eats the organs


well if its so tasty, why add any spices to the mixture of haggis ?
you should be able to eat haggis just plain then. or any organ plain for that matter.
I know I can throw a steak on the grill plain & enjoy eating it. how about you eating some stomach & whatnot plain ?

as for the wild animals eating the organs 1st, I think it has more to deal with the nutrients more than flavor. remember animals lick their own ass (or eat poop & afterbirth) so I dont think flavor is high on their priority list ;):lol:

here ya go, you got a craving for some livestock afterbirth ? :lol:

when a animals body craves or needs something they're gonna go straight for that source, organs!
& organs have ALOT of nutrients that a wild animal needs. just like shed antlers/bones animals chew on those because their body craves it & needs the nutrients! & its not because of flavor!

Omri
07-11-2008, 02:45 AM
well if its so tasty, why add any spices to the mixture of haggis ?
you should be able to eat haggis just plain then. or any organ plain for that matter.
I know I can throw a steak on the grill plain & enjoy eating it. how about you eating some stomach & whatnot plain ?

as for the wild animals eating the organs 1st, I think it has more to deal with the nutrients more than flavor. remember animals lick their own ass (or eat poop & afterbirth) so I dont think flavor is high on their priority list ;):lol:

here ya go, you got a craving for some livestock afterbirth ? :lol:

when a animals body craves or needs something they're gonna go straight for that source, organs!
& organs have ALOT of nutrients that a wild animal needs. just like shed antlers/bones animals chew on those because their body craves it & needs the nutrients! & its not because of flavor!
*I* eat organs without any spices. some do cook 'em with spices (just like some people enjoy muscles with spices), I don't. they taste a whole lot better without, just like a good steak. each organ has a different flavor to it as well. yum!

BTW animals do go first for the organs because of the flavor and fattiness. it's like chocolate for them.

BDTastebuds
07-11-2008, 03:34 AM
Dude Chicken Gizzards with a cayenne or tabasco flavored sauce...I prefer Louisiana Gold..one yummy ass meal for under 5 bones:onfire:

LUCKYDOG
07-11-2008, 01:56 PM
Suffrite -- Calf heart, liver and some other organ chopped in a spicy marinara sauce - -yummmmmmmmmmm - y

chilehunter
07-12-2008, 07:49 PM
BTW animals do go first for the organs because of the flavor and fattiness. it's like chocolate for them.


I guess you & me have different views when it comes to this.
heres 1 point I forgot to mention earlier, the organs are softer & easier to eat vs muscle. this is a big issue when it comes to the young & older animals or animals that dont have anymeans to chew (like birds)

correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think organs have alot of fat on or in them. muscle tissue on the other hand does!

I'll agree with you that organs have their own different flavor, just like the intestines have their own flavor when they're full ;) so I come back to "flavor" is not always on the top of their priority list.

but on the other hand organs do give off a certain flavor because of certain types of nutrients (minerals)that are inside the organ.
just like deer will dig up holes in the ground & eat the dirt that has had minerals placed at that location. so do you still say its about flavor ? how does dirt rank up there for flavor ?

bentalphanerd
07-12-2008, 08:59 PM
yeah most carnivores dont have a lot of taste buds. Its more about smell initially & texture more than taste.

Omri
07-13-2008, 08:36 AM
I guess you & me have different views when it comes to this.
heres 1 point I forgot to mention earlier, the organs are softer & easier to eat vs muscle. this is a big issue when it comes to the young & older animals or animals that dont have anymeans to chew (like birds)

correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think organs have alot of fat on or in them. muscle tissue on the other hand does!

I'll agree with you that organs have their own different flavor, just like the intestines have their own flavor when they're full ;) so I come back to "flavor" is not always on the top of their priority list.

but on the other hand organs do give off a certain flavor because of certain types of nutrients (minerals)that are inside the organ.
just like deer will dig up holes in the ground & eat the dirt that has had minerals placed at that location. so do you still say its about flavor ? how does dirt rank up there for flavor ?
Some animals eat salt. that doesn't taste good, but they need it. I'm not talking about what animals eat, but what animals actually like.
As anyone with a pet know, animals will prefer some food over others. why is that? flavor. unless you're giving them crappy food. :lol:

BTW, have you ever seen a heart before? it's actually covered with visible fat. not just a little bit, but a lot. even if it's a healthy heart.
yeah most carnivores dont have a lot of taste buds. Its more about smell initially & texture more than taste.
Smell is 80%-95% of taste.

rainbowberry
07-13-2008, 01:54 PM
As anyone with a pet know, animals will prefer some food over others. why is that? flavor. unless you're giving them crappy food. :lol:



My dog Murphy goes mental over carrots and broccoli, stuff the meat.

Omri
07-13-2008, 03:27 PM
My dog Murphy goes mental over carrots and broccoli, stuff the meat.
I personally love broccoli, so that doesn't seem like a contradiction. :lol:

Canuk Pepperhead
07-13-2008, 03:54 PM
Angel just simpally loves cheese.Some stuff she wont even look at but if she hears you pulling out a block of cheese she goes nuts lol its cute

Canuk Pepperhead
07-13-2008, 04:02 PM
Just your normal style back bacon, unsmoked. Streaky bacon is US style bacon, which is also good, but not considered "proper" bacon as it's said. :) Like this...
http://www.igourmet.com/images/products/150irishbacon.jpg

I go to my buddies butcher shop and buy that all the time they call it pemeal bacon but the same thing

stillmanz
07-13-2008, 06:35 PM
the heart is an extremely lean meat muscle chewing and kinda gross but lean.
offal is making a comebackon some of the traditional restuarants round the world.
I don't do lung and I'm not a fan of kidneys or liver.
A shooter friend of mine bought me some kangaroo he had shot for me to make jerky, in a plastic bag in the box was a kidney. I wasn't really paying to much attention ripped the kidney out of the bag notied a little incision in the side, I gave it a sniff.... man
it smelt like a kangaroo that had been peed on, nasty nasty smell that stayed on my hands and the back of my throat for a while.
if you ever get the chance to sniff a fresh kangaroo kidney, don't
lol

eyepee
07-13-2008, 07:28 PM
friend of mine bought me some kangaroo

A friend of mine brought back some kangaroo jerky while at the Olympics in Sydney. I thought it was great, nice and moist, good texture, wish he had more. He is going to China, hope he doesn't bring any bear paw or tiger p*nis jerky back this time. lol

fineexampl
07-13-2008, 07:31 PM
the heart is an extremely lean meat muscle chewing and kinda gross but lean.
offal is making a comebackon some of the traditional restuarants round the world.
I don't do lung and I'm not a fan of kidneys or liver.
A shooter friend of mine bought me some kangaroo he had shot for me to make jerky, in a plastic bag in the box was a kidney. I wasn't really paying to much attention ripped the kidney out of the bag notied a little incision in the side, I gave it a sniff.... man
it smelt like a kangaroo that had been peed on, nasty nasty smell that stayed on my hands and the back of my throat for a while.
if you ever get the chance to sniff a fresh kangaroo kidney, don't
lolI missed out on my one and only chance to try kangaroo. We don't get that stuff stateside, but it was on a menu at a place called Rattlesnake Ranch and i opted for the ostrich instead. The roo was a curried and i'm not a big fan of curry so the steak was a better option. :rolleyes:

chilehunter
07-13-2008, 11:27 PM
Some animals eat salt. that doesn't taste good, but they need it. I'm not talking about what animals eat, but what animals actually like.
As anyone with a pet know, animals will prefer some food over others. why is that? flavor. unless you're giving them crappy food. :lol:

BTW, have you ever seen a heart before? it's actually covered with visible fat. not just a little bit, but a lot. even if it's a healthy heart.

Smell is 80%-95% of taste.

theres more minerals than just salt!

well some animals like some things others of the same species do not like, even if its not crappy food, its called being picky.

have I seen a heart ? yes I have several times, in fact I've pulled them right out of the body with all the other organs. & the ones I've seen I'd have to say they're not laced with fat, some very small ammounts of fat on the organs if any.

smell & taste are two different senses!


like I said I'll agree with you organs have a different flavor, but what kind of flavor is it ? is it because of the nutrients inside of it that a animal might crave ? or is it just because of a feeding frenzy & a lust for blood to eat the most tender parts of an animal (the organs)

I just dont think its about the flavor you're speaking of why wild animals eat organs 1st.

Omri
07-14-2008, 03:58 AM
theres more minerals than just salt!

well some animals like some things others of the same species do not like, even if its not crappy food, its called being picky.

have I seen a heart ? yes I have several times, in fact I've pulled them right out of the body with all the other organs. & the ones I've seen I'd have to say they're not laced with fat, some very small ammounts of fat on the organs if any.

smell & taste are two different senses!


like I said I'll agree with you organs have a different flavor, but what kind of flavor is it ? is it because of the nutrients inside of it that a animal might crave ? or is it just because of a feeding frenzy & a lust for blood to eat the most tender parts of an animal (the organs)

I just dont think its about the flavor you're speaking of why wild animals eat organs 1st.
1. salt was just an example.
2. "picky"? why is that? because it looks better?
3. organs like heart are often covered with fat, don't have any fat in them (that would kill the living creature), but organs like liver have a fatty tissue, so it's all a combination of fat and other things. I eat livers at least twice a week, BTW.
4. what we define as "taste" is a combo of mainly smell and what our taste buds detect. do apples, potatoes and onions have a completely different taste? they all taste the same when you block your nose.
5. you might agree and you might not. I'm telling you I know endless people who like most organs better than a steak. do they have a blind craving for nutrients as well? I'm not trying to make you agree, just sharing what I KNOW.

chilehunter
07-15-2008, 12:42 AM
4. what we define as "taste" is a combo of mainly smell and what our taste buds detect. do apples, potatoes and onions have a completely different taste? they all taste the same when you block your nose.



yes apples,taters,onions taste different ! let alone the texture is different for each.

I'll agree to disagree with you on the organ theory.

cyakker
07-20-2008, 06:09 PM
How can this thread exist without my favorite odd snack?

grilled chicken hearts (on sticks!), MMmmmmmm

I get the oddest looks from folks when trying to locate sources.

Omri
07-20-2008, 11:52 PM
How can this thread exist without my favorite odd snack?

grilled chicken hearts (on sticks!), MMmmmmmm

I get the oddest looks from folks when trying to locate sources.
What's odd 'bout that? a sort of fast food here you might say. not just hearts, though. livers, steaks, chicken, "foie gras" and much more, all on a stick. :P
You can't find a single neighborhood without at least one place selling those. :cool:

cyakker
07-21-2008, 12:15 AM
Everybody I encounter in the US on the topic thinks it's freaky, butchers and such included. I got turned on to them in Brazil, but here... folks ain't into 'em. I love 'em.

Omri
07-21-2008, 12:18 AM
Everybody I encounter in the US on the topic thinks it's freaky, butchers and such included. I got turned on to them in Brazil, but here... folks ain't into 'em. I love 'em.
Don't worry, *they're* the weird ones! :lol:

cyakker
07-21-2008, 12:24 AM
Oh, the only thing I worry about is if my current source dries up and I have to explain yet again: "Yes, I really want 5 lbs of chicken hearts... no... just hearts... yes, I eat them."

Omri
07-21-2008, 12:28 AM
Oh, the only thing I worry about is if my current source dries up and I have to explain yet again: "Yes, I really want 5 lbs of chicken hearts... no... just hearts... yes, I eat them."
I just buy mine from the local butcher. :shocked:
You *can* find some at the supermarket, but I like mine fresh. :P