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HotPeppersFlyFishing
04-28-2008, 02:10 AM
In about 2 weeks or so It will be time for me to finally put some of my Plants into their 5 gallon containers outside. I have a 40 lb bag of Hyponex potting soil that I will use and some Perlite I will add but I want to add some other type of soil
to them. Should I use a compost type soil or another vegetable/tomato type soil?? Something on the "not break the bank" type of soil. I also thought about adding a little sand as I have read that somewhere it was good for Chile Plants. Any recommendations would be GREAT.
Thanks
Tom

HotPeppersFlyFishing
04-28-2008, 05:12 PM
Hmmmmmm did I piss everyone off ????:lol::lol:

stillmanz
04-28-2008, 05:21 PM
sand and peat are both good additives.

HotPeppersFlyFishing
04-28-2008, 05:24 PM
Thanks Stillmanz I will go that route I already have some peat
so I just need sand which is VERY cost effective :lol::)

Chiliac
04-28-2008, 05:47 PM
I'd recommend sand, too. You can steal it from playgrounds at night! :)

I would and will also add some "fresh" topsoil by "collecting" mole hills. If you got access to compost, a bit of that would also be good.

cmpman1974
04-28-2008, 10:10 PM
I use Pro-Mix primarily so I'm not a lot of help. I'm just wondering if 2 weeks is too early for SE MI. I'd recommend waiting 3 weeks at least to be safe here. I live right where you do. :)

Chris

Daisy7117
04-28-2008, 10:21 PM
I use sand, even in my seedling mix I use 40% cactus soil because it is well draining...peppers usually don't like to sit in soggy soil....I also use peatmoss, compost, and even some ground up dry leaves, it creates a rich well draining soil.

QuadShotz
04-28-2008, 10:37 PM
So sand will help out Hyponex?

I havent done anything in awhile because I'm waiting on funds to get new soil as I made the newbie mistake of buying that nasty "soil" and it killed all my hab sprouts. No drainage at all.

If just sand would help..hmmm.

I hate to just ditch the stuff, but like concrete it's so dense.

Pepperfreak
04-28-2008, 10:38 PM
Tom,

I was told by a nursery guy to mix 2 parts of good top soil to 1 part of aged compost and this would be excellent for peppers. As of getting your peppers out is 2 weeks...IMO to wait 3 just to be on the safe side. I'm planning a big plant out on Memorial Day Week because the frost is over by then. A couple of years ago I had a neighbor who lost their whole garden to frost...

andy999
04-29-2008, 12:11 AM
I use Pro-Mix primarily so I'm not a lot of help. I'm just wondering if 2 weeks is too early for SE MI. I'd recommend waiting 3 weeks at least to be safe here. I live right where you do. :)

Chris

I would second this I live in your area too ,and last year I planted peppers around may 13-15 and they suffered ,so this year I will plant them in may 25-28 or a little sooner according to weather forecast,buy temp below 52-55F at night are not to good ,as soil goes I will put top soil mixed with my own compost
There is a hydroponic store on Middlebelt and Seven mile NE corner of Middlebelt ,I always buy there mix for my seedlings but it is expensive 17 $ per bag ,I wish I could buy 10 -20 bags for my pots
happy growing

HotPeppersFlyFishing
04-29-2008, 02:34 AM
Thanks to all for the great advice.I will weigh the many options
and go from there. And when I said plant out in 2 weeks well that is on my very "optimistic" time to plant out but it is more wishful thinking than anything!!:lol::lol:

rainbowberry
04-29-2008, 04:18 AM
I'd recommend sand, too. You can steal it from playgrounds at night! :)



:shame: If you've seen what lurks in that playground sand you wouldn't wanna grow your chillis in it let alone have kids playing in it. Cigarette butts and lumps of dog poo are often found beneath the surface, nasty.

HotPeppersFlyFishing
04-29-2008, 04:40 AM
:shame: If you've seen what lurks in that playground sand you wouldn't wanna grow your chillis in it let alone have kids playing in it. Cigarette butts and lumps of dog poo are often found beneath the surface, nasty.

:lol: but i have to agree with rainbowberry ewwww i can pick up a 20 lb bag of sand
for 2 dollars so I will do that. After a 91 dollar vet visit
for Gunner its gotta be low priced:lol: vet visit was good btw just some round worms that he was treated for but other than that clean bill of health:) lil guy is GROWING lol

Chiliac
04-29-2008, 03:31 PM
:shame: If you've seen what lurks in that playground sand you wouldn't wanna grow your chillis in it let alone have kids playing in it. Cigarette butts and lumps of dog poo are often found beneath the surface, nasty.

I was kidding and YOU know it!!! :)

If that's all you find in the playground, you must be living in a really good neighbourhood! :)

BurritoMan
04-29-2008, 09:39 PM
I use about 50% native soil (very fine nutrient rich soil almost clay where I live), and the other half is 1/3 sand, 1/3 compost and/or steer manure, 1/3 silty soil I buy. In raised beds, drains well. Chiles seem to love this mix.

Omri
04-30-2008, 12:02 AM
I was kidding and YOU know it!!! :)

If that's all you find in the playground, you must be living in a really good neighbourhood! :)
When she used the word "lurks" I thought I knew what she's talking about, but I guess not. :P

rainbowberry
04-30-2008, 04:38 AM
I was kidding and YOU know it!!! :)

If that's all you find in the playground, you must be living in a really good neighbourhood! :)

Luckily I do live in a great place. The worst you'll find down the local playground is the odd empty crisp/chip wrapper and "Harry loves Sally" engraved in the bench :)

HotPeppersFlyFishing
04-30-2008, 03:09 PM
I have a ton (literally) of free sand at my disposal.
I have Lakes Huron Erie and St Clair right near me but who knows what kinda crap is in that sand!!:lol::lol:

Chiliac
04-30-2008, 03:18 PM
Syringes, condoms, a ton of "Vote Perot" bumper stickers and a yet unknown victim of the Zodiac I guess!

HotPeppersFlyFishing
05-01-2008, 03:11 AM
Syringes, condoms, a ton of "Vote Perot" bumper stickers and a yet unknown victim of the Zodiac I guess!

:lol: who knows might find Hoffa too:lol:

Flex
05-01-2008, 08:12 AM
Maybe a stupid question, but what is the benifit of using sand in the mix?

Chiliac
05-01-2008, 08:13 AM
It looses it up and helps drainage!

Omri
05-01-2008, 08:16 AM
Maybe a stupid question, but what is the benifit of using sand in the mix?
Adjusting levels of adsorption and drainage.

chuk hell
05-01-2008, 04:37 PM
I use METRO MIX 702 for starter transplants and container growing. I've had great luck with it. Wonderful stuff.

thepodpiper
05-01-2008, 07:11 PM
HPFF, I would say some sand and compost from HD or Lowes and you will be good to go.

As far as planting out I think it is going to be more towards the end of May. The weatherman on the news last night said it was going to be colder than normal for May.

Dale

AlabamaJack
05-01-2008, 07:21 PM
HPFF...I have been following this thread and have not responded because I am using an untested mixture this year...60/40 compost/cushion sand...excellent water retention but great drainage too...it is called "premium soil mix" at the local recycle center and cost me 17.50 a yard if I pick it up...I have already hauled 10 yds shovel by shovel (lots of trips :lol: ) and have to move another 5 tomorrow for finishing touches. I don't think you will need a yard do you?

HotPeppersFlyFishing
05-02-2008, 02:37 AM
Thanks Dale and AJ and everyone else for the great tips.
I need just enough soil to fill 15 5 gallon containers.
So I think I will get a mixture of what you all mentioned
and hope for the best. Im thinking a mix of 30 30 30 10 (sand compost potting soil with maybe some perlight mixed in or maybe some cactus soil mixed in etc etc) with a dash of topsoil.
Thanks again for all the great advice I wouldnt be this far along with out it and I am truely grateful!!!:)
Tom

Flex
05-02-2008, 05:02 AM
I thought that sand would cause it to hold more water? You are talking about sand like at a beach yeh?

ddufore
05-02-2008, 12:08 PM
I was very fortunate to get a dump truck load of "barnyard soil" which is nothing more than sand and cow manure that was scraped up from the barnyard in the spring. This was dumped at my place approx 10 years ago and part of which now is in my newly built pepper bed (4' wide X 22'long). I think that this will be just dandy for growing hot peppers.