OFFICIAL PEPPER RANKINGS

[cheezydemon]

I will do my best to update this as info becomes available. Obviously mods are welcome to modify this first post. I wanted people to be able to access a list of peppers in descending heat by lab tested scoville units. Anyone feel free to post and I will update it as I can. I AM NO EXPERT. feel free to comment, especially OMRI.


BHUT JOLOKIA - 1,001,304
NAGA - Dorset, morich, etc. 960,000
7POT -
TRINIDAD SCORPION -
FATALI
DEVILS TONGUE
CHOCOLATE HAB - 301,065
ORANGE HAB - 295,529
RED SAVINA HAB - 256,341

[POTAWIE]

Red savina is really no hotter than a normal hab but Fatalii and devil's tongue should be up there on the list probably just below the naga, bhut, 7-pot and scorpions.

[AlabamaJack]

from NMSU

"Bhut Jolokia, at 1,001,304 Scoville Heat Units (SHU), is nearly twice as hot as Red Savina"

[Omri]

First of all... Bhut Jolokia with the fiery 1,001,304SHU world record!

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9801/boslandpaulpq6.jpg

Red Savina with 577,000SHU (even though the result never duplicated).

http://www.redsavina.com/

EDIT:

Some more authenticated scores.
http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/heatlevels2001.html

[POTAWIE]

The red savina testing was very likely flawed so its best to just forget the 577,000 SHU. Chocolate habs, white habs, gold and white bullet habs are all much hotter as well as the ones from the 2001 heat levels link.

[cmpman1974]

Paul Bosland has had seed samples of all the super hots for a while now. I was looking forward to NMSU's testing results under a controlled environment of all these. Ironically, all plants but Bhut Jolokia are destroyed each time due to "virus" issues. Strange this happened 2-3 times now from my understanding.

I'm starting to wonder how the seeds were so compromised.

Chris


First of all... Bhut Jolokia with the fiery 1,001,304SHU world record!

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9801/boslandpaulpq6.jpg

Red Savina with 577,000SHU (even though the result never duplicated).

http://www.redsavina.com/

EDIT:

Some more authenticated scores.
http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/heatlevels2001.html

[POTAWIE]

I wonder the same cmpman. They'll likely only show SHU results when they have enough seeds to sell.

[POTAWIE]

Chocolate habs have been tested as high as 450000 SHU according to

http://www.thechileman.org/results.php?find=habanero+chocolate&heat=Any&origin=Any&genus=Any&chile=1

[Omri]

They also say Naga Morich is 1,500,000SHU and Red Savina is 577,000SHU.
It's better to show the tests, not places with no known sources.
This is what this thread is about.

[pablo]

hello everyone,
I recently spoke to a young woman at NMSU.Chili Pepper Institute and she told me they were currently doing a comparison study of Bhut Jolokia and Naga Moresh , maybe they will release the study results sometime this year.
she would not elaborate on what the study consists of in detail,so i could only guess about that.
maybe they will do some Fatalii testing too.I read somewhere that
Dr Bosland was thinking about it.

pablo

[POTAWIE]

Are we going with flawed science or realistic numbers?

[cheezydemon]

Realistic. That's why I didn't list the dorset at 1.5 million.

[Daisy7117]

BHUT JOLOKIA - 1,001,304
NAGA - Dorset, morich, etc. 960,000
7POT -
TRINIDAD SCORPION -
FATALI
DEVILS TONGUE
CHOCOLATE HAB - 301,065
ORANGE HAB - 295,529
RED SAVINA HAB - 256,341

I've never grown any of these peppers, but in terms of taste (not heat), what are the most flavorful and aromatic?

[cheezydemon]

This will be my first year with naga and scorpion.

The only one I have grown is the orange hab. Man I love it! It has a distinctly smoky flavor and plenty of heat.

The 3 best dishes I made with them were: Seared Scallops with a habanero mango glaze, Hab salsa, and hot wings.

[Daisy7117]

Thanks, I came across the pepper Lemon Drop, which looks interesting because it supposedly has lots of heat and a very lemony flavor....I was thinking of making a lemon marmalade with some Lemon Drop pepper....also maybe an orange hab. pepper jelly....hmmmm.

[POTAWIE]

Fatalii (and devil's tongue which is very similar) have a great lemony taste with lots of heat. A must have in my opinion.

[AlabamaJack]

You all are forgetting the Diablo Negro I ordered from EBay....roflmao

supposed to cause spontaneous combustion when consumed....

[QuebecFire]

hehe sorry dude but I ask to the seller if they are diablo negro and he tell me that is just the name he give them ...but this not THE diablo negro ..

[Omri]

QuebecFire, THERE IS NO "DIABLO NEGRO". :\

[cheezydemon]

Right! no Diablo Negro in the list. I am having trouble finding lab results for anything else. Does anyone know of anything obviously missing from the list?

[POTAWIE]

White habs, white and gold bullet habs, Datil.

[QuebecFire]

omri : dhoo ...I was shure that santa gonna bring me some from north pole LOL

[QuebecFire]

maybe you can add : capucino hab , ivorante pimente

[POTAWIE]

You all are forgetting the Diablo Negro I ordered from EBay....roflmao

supposed to cause spontaneous combustion when consumed....

I'm surprised you haven't bought the Donni sali "the world's hottest pepper":lol:

[POTAWIE]

Really there are probably too many C. chinense to list.

[staffing]

This will be my first year with naga and scorpion.

The only one I have grown is the orange hab. Man I love it! It has a distinctly smoky flavor and plenty of heat.

The 3 best dishes I made with them were: Seared Scallops with a habanero mango glaze, Hab salsa, and hot wings.

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Sounds awesome, chef. If you ever want to share the scallop or salsa recipes, I'm across the state from you (TN side of the tunnel at Cumberland Gap). Sounds like you have a knack, and I study too hard these days to dabble :(

[staffing]

hehe sorry dude but I ask to the seller if they are diablo negro and he tell me that is just the name he give them ...but this not THE diablo negro ..

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Looks like I'm going to have to try to score some Scorpion and Fatali seeds. I'm intrigued.

[cheezydemon]

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Sounds awesome, chef. If you ever want to share the scallop or salsa recipes, I'm across the state from you (TN side of the tunnel at Cumberland Gap). Sounds like you have a knack, and I study too hard these days to dabble :(


Sear the (diver) scallops in just a little butter on high heat until they develop a dark crust on each side(still rare in the middle). Salt each side as soon as you flip it.

Puree one orange hab, de-seeded, with one clove of garlic and roughly 1/3 of a mango, 1 tsp of salt. Cover the scallops with the glaze.

Stewed tomatoes (or fresh) 1 can, 1 clove of garlic, 3 orange habs, 1 med onion, 2 tsp salt. Chop or blend all.

Enjoy! I make my own chips to go with the salsa.

[Pam]

Thanks, I came across the pepper Lemon Drop, which looks interesting because it supposedly has lots of heat and a very lemony flavor....I was thinking of making a lemon marmalade with some Lemon Drop pepper....also maybe an orange hab. pepper jelly....hmmmm.



Lemon Drop is one of my very favorite peppers. I not only like the flavor, I like the texture of the flesh, it's so crisp and easy to work with in the kitchen.

[AlabamaJack]

I'm surprised you haven't bought the Donni sali "the world's hottest pepper":lol:

where can I get these....:P

[stillmanz]

I don't rate the red savini not half as hot as a choc hab in my experience..its one of those hype peppers.
POTAWIES is on the money with the devils tongue and fatalii a must have for me.

[wordwiz]

Here's a site a Google search turned up. Probably biased, but she is selling pepper plants I have never seen mentioned.

http://www.thechilewoman.com/listofchiles/heatscale/#10

Mike

[staffing]

Sear the (diver) scallops in just a little butter on high heat until they develop a dark crust on each side(still rare in the middle). Salt each side as soon as you flip it.

Puree one orange hab, de-seeded, with one clove of garlic and roughly 1/3 of a mango, 1 tsp of salt. Cover the scallops with the glaze.

Stewed tomatoes (or fresh) 1 can, 1 clove of garlic, 3 orange habs, 1 med onion, 2 tsp salt. Chop or blend all.

Enjoy! I make my own chips to go with the salsa.
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Thanks, CheezyDemon. I'll give that a try next weekend. Sounds really good.

[cheezydemon]

Here's a site a Google search turned up. Probably biased, but she is selling pepper plants I have never seen mentioned.

http://www.thechilewoman.com/listofchiles/heatscale/#10

Mike

She covers thr right bases, so I am inclined to think that she is legit. However, I don't think that we can cover every obscure pepper that seems to be hot.

Also we can't figure out the formula to convert a "9" into Scoville units.

[chilehunter]

this is a good idea but why only have the hottest of the hottest listed ? since theres also other chiles ;) I'm not saying to list all of them but you could list alot of others also. & if this was a sticky it'd be cool for others to take a quick look to see what some chile rate for SHU levels.

[cheezydemon]

That is true CH, and I would like to, but there are like 12 new peppers named every day it seems like!
If you want to start listing some, I will cut and paste it onto the list.

[POTAWIE]

Do they do scoville testing for 'not so hot' peppers or is the SHU reading just an educated guess?

[Pam]

Here's a site a Google search turned up. Probably biased, but she is selling pepper plants I have never seen mentioned.

http://www.thechilewoman.com/listofchiles/heatscale/#10

Mike

I have ordered from her before, and I've never been entirely satisfied with my orders. One time I got the plants I ordered, but all the labels were mixed up. And that's where I ordered the Chaco Yellow plants that turned out to be Aji Habanero plants.

She is very responsive to email, and if you're thinking about ordering from her you might email her first about your choices.

[cheezydemon]

She probably doesn't do Scoville testing If I had to guess.

My guess Potowie is that a few of the most common have been done just as a point of reference. Jalapeno, Bell, etc.

The 1,000,000 score is meaningless until you realize that it is 100X the heat of a jalapeno.

[Omri]

She probably doesn't do Scoville testing If I had to guess.

My guess Potowie is that a few of the most common have been done just as a point of reference. Jalapeno, Bell, etc.

The 1,000,000 score is meaningless until you realize that it is 100X the heat of a jalapeno.
Healthy Jalapeño is about 4,000SHU. some are more.

[cheezydemon]

Oops! I was referencing something that said they were around 10,000! so make that 200-220 times hotter than a jap.

[Omri]

Some crosses are even less than 4,000SHU. some are 1,000SHU.

[cheezydemon]

I know, the "popper" peppers. Or the "appleby's" pepper.

As much of a chain as Chile's is, I have to commend them on keeping their jalapenos real. That may be the only chain that does.

[wordwiz]

Also we can't figure out the formula to convert a "9" into Scoville units.

What about something like each level (1-10) is about twice as hot as the one below it.
2,000 or below
4,000
8,000
16,000
32,000
64,000
125,000 (128,00 if one wanted to nit-pick)
250,000
500,000
> 750,000

On this scale, a 9 would be between 500,000-750,000 SHUs. I did something like this for the list I am trying to grow, just so I have a reference point. People who really are not that much into the terminology can understand if a pepper they haven't tried is 125 times hotter than one they have.

Mike

[Omri]

It's like computer stuff! :lol:
8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096... :P

[TriniHottie]

Anyone have a pic of Donni Sali?

[POTAWIE]

Donni Sali is another fake, not even close to the hottest.

http://www.thechileman.org/results.php?find=guam&heat=Any&origin=Any&genus=Any&chile=1

[wordwiz]

It's like computer stuff! :lol:
8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096... :P
Yep, but we first learned it as Base 2 (back in the '60s). However, I would be wary of any pepper that was rated as 4,096,000 SHU!

Mike

[chilehunter]

wordwiz - you'd ONLY be WARY of a 4,000,000 SHU chile :shocked: I wont even think about eating it or touching it w/o gloves on :lol:
BTW they dont exsist, that level of SHU

[Daisy7117]

Lemon Drop is one of my very favorite peppers. I not only like the flavor, I like the texture of the flesh, it's so crisp and easy to work with in the kitchen.

I think I'm definitely going to try growing this one, if not this year then definitely next...it sounds too good to pass up!

[habman]

Ok not scientific but check this guy out.

He eats whole peppers and gives a pretty good description of flavor and burn.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=TheHippySeedCompany&p=r

cool way to advertise a seed cie....got to love those crazy Aussie!

[Pepper Belly]

As far as I understand, naga, bhut are all variations of the name far the identically same pepper. Please someone clarify for the people that have been testing that thing those are identical plants but it seems some of the members here have other information that implies that these are not only separate plants but have different Scoville ratings please someone clarify.

[Omri]

As far as I understand, naga, bhut are all variations of the name far the identically same pepper. Please someone clarify for the people that have been testing that thing those are identical plants but it seems some of the members here have other information that implies that these are not only separate plants but have different Scoville ratings please someone clarify.
They're somewhat different, but not insanely different.

http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/jolokia_compared.asp

[cap lover]

lol you should list scorpion above the naga as CARDI (carribean agricultural research and-development institute) has recorded over 1 mil SHU for the scorpion and (from what i hear) the trinidad douglah aswell :P

[Omri]

lol you should list scorpion above the naga as CARDI (carribean agricultural research and-development institute) has recorded over 1 mil SHU for the scorpion and (from what i hear) the trinidad douglah aswell :P
Bhut Jolokia was also recorded over 1,000,000SHU... what's your point?
I couldn't find anything regarding the "Douglah".

[cap lover]

i only heard from trinihottie that it was recorded above 1mil SHU but apparently that is classified :P probably well over 1.5mil hybrid made for the government in making a super secret capsaicin-bomb!!!!! lol

[Omri]

i only heard from trinihottie that it was recorded above 1mil SHU but apparently that is classified :P probably well over 1.5mil hybrid made for the government in making a super secret capsaicin-bomb!!!!! lol
Don't get me wrong I like you, but that's not funny.
We take peppers very seriously here in THP...









:lol: Just messing with you. :lol:

[cap lover]

, YAY!... he quoted me, huh... what?! not funny? oh... serious peppers;)







hahahahaha! he DOES understand funny :P

[Biscombe]

Lemon Drop is one of my very favorite peppers. I not only like the flavor, I like the texture of the flesh, it's so crisp and easy to work with in the kitchen.

I love these peppers! they don't seem to stop fruiting! soooooooo productive!

[cheezydemon]

Alright Omri!!!! Book him lol.;)

[AlabamaJack]

Alright Omri!!!! Book him lol.;)

Can we start calling Omri "Sheriff"?:lol::clap:

[POTAWIE]

Officer Omri? Not to offend, just sounds good.

[AlabamaJack]

or just "Barn"....

[cheezydemon]

OK now! Omri was a little offended the first time I called him a pepper cop. I think he has become OK with it, but let's hear from him before we take it any further.

He prides himself on accracy of statement. I can respect that.

[AlabamaJack]

OK now! Omri was a little offended the first time I called him a pepper cop. I think he has become OK with it, but let's hear from him before we take it any further.

He prides himself on accracy of statement. I can respect that.

I agree....the only reason I am pickin' on him is I LIKE HIM...

Come on Omri....where are you?

[cheezydemon]

Indeed. He is a good guy to have around.

[Omri]

Thanks guys. ;)
I'm just a little busy, so I will look around, just not necessarily comment.

[cheezydemon]

Indeed....gathering clues....maintaining the peace.....protecting and serving lol.

He won't say much until it's time to say:
"may I please see your license and registration for that claim ma'am? My records indicate that the pepper in question has only 775,000 BTU's"

[AlabamaJack]

I am waiting for him to say "Your Papers Please" to which IGG would respond, "Hey man, I only got a pipe"...

[cheezydemon]

"That's not mine!"

-Puss in Boots when arrested and found to be in posession of catnip. Shrek2

[AlabamaJack]

mine was from "A Childs Garden of Grass" back in the late 60's early 70's.

[cheezydemon]

I'll have to check that out.