View Full Version : To taste or not to taste?
Davetaylor
01-19-2008, 03:43 PM
Do you guys/gals actually use your limited edition sauces?
If you do then all you are left with is a limited bottle and memories.
Me i just get more than one bottle use one, save one, after all your don't see wine buffs trading empties.
shayneyasinski
01-19-2008, 03:55 PM
I belive that any good sauce maker will put out a collector bottle and also sell the same sauce in a non collector bottle that can be used.
Davetaylor
01-19-2008, 04:35 PM
Yea but that would make it a collector bottle rather than a collectors sauce.
I always thought that limited meant limited as in we will only ever make a limited amount of this sauce.
Forgive me but an i missing the point but why would you say hundreds of $$ for a sauce that might also be sold in a plain bottle for say $5?
bentalphanerd
01-19-2008, 06:57 PM
Buying sauce & not eating it is like buying a painting & putting it in a cupboard. The first things anyone wants to know is 'What does it taste like & How hot is it?
Davetaylor
01-19-2008, 07:40 PM
Buying sauce & not eating it is like buying a painting & putting it in a cupboard. The first things anyone wants to know is 'What does it taste like & How hot is it?
how do bentalphanerd not seen you in the galore for a bit.
I know what your saying thats why i'd buy 2 bottles if the price is right, but i don't see the point of paying more for a sauce that is gonna end up on general sale in a normal bottle and at a cheaper price than the limited edition.
In fact i've just bought 3 bottles of a limited run and 1 of them isn't gonna get opened, so at some point i'll have the only surviving bottle and that is unique surely
bentalphanerd
01-19-2008, 08:06 PM
Sure if you can get more than one bottle - or a signed release is also nice. But what happens if you don't like the sauce you bought - do you still leave a bottle on your shelf of fame?
shayneyasinski
01-20-2008, 12:30 AM
Its all hype .
Limited edition hot sauce ....ooooooh ya really got somthing there .
come on it's sauce .
My opinion still stands on this ... if you buy any sauce makers limited edition sauce and they don't offer it any other way than in a numbered bottle you are getting sold hype.
I have nothing good to say about a sauce maker that has big claims on a sauce that they will only sell 40 numbered bottles to collectors.
when I try a sauce and like it I will buy it and to hear that it was a limited run and there will be no more I call that hype and will then look elsewhere for sauce I can get.
bentalphanerd
01-20-2008, 02:04 AM
well some numbered batches can be worth it - current eg. would be stillmanz devil tongue jerk sauce. Its limited to the amount of pods he had & I'll be getting a few...and eating them all.
As for sauces made with readily obtainable bulk ingredients, I agree they're cashing in.
But yeah - checkout the ingredients on most of these things & you can see why they're rare or limited.
stillmanz
01-20-2008, 03:23 AM
I have two sauces in my range which are limited edition types.
My Devils tongue Jerk, and my Texas pequin hot sauce both are limited run products due to the fact the peppers are not commercially availiable.
Mind you, as we are officially labeling and releasing the devils tongue jerk at easter the first batch will be numbered.
Yes its hype and yes I expect you to use the sauce....hell keep the bottle as a souvenier but use the sauce otherwise it would be a waste.
IMHO I do believe hot sauce was ment to be tasted at least.
It would drive me crazy looking at some unoped bottle on the shelf, I'd get pissed and open it for sure lol.
"If you eat it, he will come..." :lol:
Sauces were meant for flavoring your food, don't keep them as some kind of souvenir.
The bottle? maybe.
The sauce? hell no.
bentalphanerd
01-20-2008, 03:41 AM
I did a very limited edition recently - made 4 bottles of 'pain2' & 3 of them were sent to competitions :lol: The last one dies tomorrow.
I set my recipes and ingredients though, it can be reproduced, it'll just be a while before the next batch.
stillmanz
01-20-2008, 03:54 AM
Pain 2 .....I fear thee.
Bent @ I had an extremely limited edition for some of my experimental sauces. 1 bottle each. :lol:
Save me a bottle (or more :lol:) on your next batch, I'll be ordering it for sure.
Stillman @ You're one dramatic guy. :lol:
bentalphanerd
01-20-2008, 04:08 AM
:lol: I'm stacking it up next to the 10 & snakebite private reserve tomorrow. Looking forward to comments. I can't wait to be able to make more of it, all the joy of normal pain with that extra mile only a million scovilles can give you.
I'm thinking billyboys Naga concentrate is cause for serious concern but this belongs in another thread.
Davetaylor
01-20-2008, 04:32 AM
I'm still struggling to see the point of using a collectable sauce, after you've eaten it you can't get more even if it was the best sauce you've ever tasted and that would annoy me, and at the end of the day all you are left with is an empty bottle.
And are the most expensive bottles of wine empty bottles or undrinkable liquid?
so if every one else that buys from the same limited run as me and eats the sauce and i keep 1 bottle unopened then i'll have the only one left in the world and that would be unique
So you'd rather not eating it at all, than eating it and not getting anymore?
stillmanz
01-20-2008, 04:54 AM
I'ts like good scotch, only the brave open a $300 bottle but damn it taste good.
No regrets.
Bhudists say if you love somethin let it free if it returns to burn you the next day it was ment to be. lol
rainbowberry
01-20-2008, 04:58 AM
I couldn't have it unopened in my cupboard, I've paid for it so I'm going to eat it. I do save the bottles but I'll probably re-use them. I had a limited edition from Woody and that was opened within seconds of it leaving the postmans hand.
I'ts like good scotch, only the brave open a $300 bottle but damn it taste good.
No regrets.
Bhudists say if you love somethin let it free if it returns to burn you the next day it was ment to be. lol
He can save it for a special occasion, but still eating it at some point. :lol:
I couldn't have it unopened in my cupboard, I've paid for it so I'm going to eat it. I do save the bottles but I'll probably re-use them. I had a limited edition from Woody and that was opened within seconds of it leaving the postmans hand.
Did I mention already I like you? ;)
Davetaylor
01-20-2008, 05:18 AM
Yes i eat limited sauces. But as i said i buy at least 2 (depending no price) and keep 1 unopened As i collect sauces not bottles!
bentalphanerd
01-20-2008, 05:26 AM
I'm still struggling to see the point of using a collectable sauce, after you've eaten it you can't get more even if it was the best sauce you've ever tasted and that would annoy me, and at the end of the day all you are left with is an empty bottle.
And are the most expensive bottles of wine empty bottles or undrinkable liquid?
so if every one else that buys from the same limited run as me and eats the sauce and i keep 1 bottle unopened then i'll have the only one left in the world and that would be unique
Yes but anyone could just say it's the greatest sauce on earth & limited. Like I said, buy a van gough & put it in a cupboard. Take a photo of the label, store that & eat the sauce, it wasn't made for its looks;) Eventually it will be inedible inside the jar & still look the same on the outside.
bentalphanerd
01-20-2008, 05:27 AM
I should mention I consider cooking/sauce making an art form :cool:
stillmanz
01-20-2008, 06:09 AM
Or dining in a fine restaurant and having the best meal of your life, you can still smell and taste it....memmories are worth a great deal too.
AlabamaJack
01-20-2008, 08:10 AM
I also am of the mind that if you buy a sauce it is for eating.
I bought two numbered "Epidemic Proportions" bottles (for Autism Research), #5 & #8 and had to taste it. I opened 8/150 but will keep the 5/150, for a while anyway. It has good heat and a fruity taste…very pleasant through the sweat it produces. Pretty little bottle...looks almost benign.
Ingredients:
Fatalii Chiles, Red Savina Habaneros, Vinegar, Garlic, Onion, Tequilla, Lime Juice, Cilantro, Crushed Red Pepper, naga Jolokia, Mexican Oregano, Salt, Spices.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/281/011908033zh4.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=011908033zh4.jpg)
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5374/epidemicproportions0011yd7.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=epidemicproportions0011yd7.jpg)
Davetaylor
01-20-2008, 08:49 AM
I got 3 of them bottles winging their way over to the uk i've got #6, #100 and another unknown number,
and one of them is not getting opened, one is being used and i have a special purpose for the 3rd bottle
stillmanz
01-20-2008, 08:59 AM
bear repellent? lol
stillmanz
01-20-2008, 09:00 AM
Just kidding fellin the last beer. lol
I've never heard of this sauce what put you on to it? Got alink... anything with Fatalii in it makes me want to try it.
AlabamaJack
01-20-2008, 09:18 AM
Got alink...
http://www.thehotpepper.com/showthread.php?t=4066&highlight=hot+zone+online
stillmanz
01-20-2008, 09:38 AM
Thats a green pepper sauce thats sounds really interesting, and a really good cause too.
chilehunter
01-20-2008, 11:30 AM
limited edition doesnt make it a collectors item!
do you really think if the sauce is that great they wouldnt ever make the same sauce again ? or very close to it. then those limited sauces I bet are not that far off in ingredients or taste with their normal line of sauces.
I dont get into buying those "limited edition" "collectors" hot sauce IMO its all hype! I bet Blairs is laughing his ass off all the way to the bank while people keep buying his sauces. almost the same sauces but different name & color of wax :rolleyes:
their "caldera" hot sauce was selling for $900 & the SHU was 1.5 million - 13 million thats pretty vague if you ask me. blairs is nothing more than a mainstream company that sells hot sauces at outrageous prices & slaps "limited or collectors" on everything.
I refuse to buy any of blairs products!
you might say it costs that much to make extract sauces, really ? then explain to me why you can get 4 million shu sauces for $10-$35 or 5 million shu sauces for $40
heres another example daves private reserve 500,000 shu $25
daves limited edition same ingredients only it has more extract 14 million shu $255
I'm with shayne its all hype & nothing more than sales gimmick, & a real limited run of a sauce would still be a short run of the sauce but still sold around the normal price of their other sauces, & maybe again down the road sold again. they're not that special eat them! plus years down the road the sauce would be worthless so enjoy the sauce while its still good.
sorry for my rant.
AlabamaJack
01-20-2008, 11:59 AM
Don't mind the rant CH...but know this was a good cause...plus the sauce is very good too.....
chilehunter
01-20-2008, 12:37 PM
AJ - my little rant was not directed towards the hot sauces you bought & showed. I dont have a problem with those kind of limited/collector bottles of hot sauce because they're for a good cause & meant to raise money for a good cause. at the time if it was in my budget I'd also buy them, but as you know sometimes the price gets really up there for those types when bidding on things for good causes.
my rant was more towards those hot sauce companys that do it to line their pockets with money, theres plenty of other sauces on the market that are just as good or close enough where you dont need to spend $300 for a $25 - $50 bottle of hot sauce.
chilehunter
01-20-2008, 12:49 PM
like I said in another thread. if you're gonna spend hundreds of dollars on some hot sauce in the hopes of cashing in on it later (IF! you're lucky enough that someone will pay more for it down the road & IF! someone will even buy it)
do yourself a favor & spend that money on some gold or bonds or ?
AlabamaJack
01-20-2008, 12:51 PM
OK, understand now
Davetaylor
01-20-2008, 01:14 PM
The price of some sauces is a joke.
A sauce that is limited and for a good cause is more likely to get me to dip into pocket.
But come on there is a sauce in the shop on this site i think it's a blair's and they are wanting $995, to me that is taking the piss, so i agree with CH about big companies cashing in.
And extract i'd rather buy natural sauces from small independant producers, as they are normal chilli heads like you and me. And they take time and care to make good sauces first and profit second
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