pass the parcel seed trading

[macmanmatty]

Got this idea from woody who did this in the uk and europe. The idea is simple someone starts with a parcle (most likely me) full of seeds and then it gets passed around to whoever wants to join. They add any spare seeds they have and take what they need from the parcel. Then it gets passed on to the next person on the list, and they do the same . Let me know if any you all are interested in participating and if we get enough people this could be a possiblity. I have loads of seeds I could put in the box.

macmanmatty

[JustJane]

Or we could have like a trading post in the marketplace and someone post up the free seeds they have and the person to respond gets the original posters seeds and then lists what they have to send to the next person, and so on! Both good ideas!

[macmanmatty]

Or we could have like a trading post in the marketplace and someone post up the free seeds they have and the person to respond gets the original posters seeds and then lists what they have to send to the next person, and so on! Both good ideas!

is this a joke? Because I was serious about the parcel idea.

[JustJane]

No, I was serious. If I had any seeds right now I would be the first to start a free seed thread. It would go like this.

I am offering Chocolate hab,naga morich,cayenne, and jalapeño seeds.

then someone lets say "macmanmatty" wanted those seeds, then you would respond and say something like "I'll take those!! and I offer Red hab,trinidad scorpion, And 7-pod.

Why do you ask if it was a joke? Im confused.

[LUCKYDOG]

Dont we do that now :scratches head: ???
Post what you want and post what you got if any and stick around the board for awhile --- afterall you are in the Hotpepper/seeds area

[cheezydemon]

True, but this is more of a pot luck idea...and I like it! Sorry Jane.
I would do it! If you want to send it to me first, I have a ton of seeds. I could send some back to you so you don't get left out, then I would send the original box on to whoever is next.

Good idea!

[LUCKYDOG]

Not for me thanks I prefer to know whats up

[cheezydemon]

Not for me thanks I prefer to know whats up
Lol, to each their own Lucky! I am more of an optimist. I may find that pepper that I did not know I wanted, but that becomes my favorite!

[LUCKYDOG]

Maybe Im not getting it Cheezy? --- are the seeds in labled packages? or a complete cluster muck ?

[cheezydemon]

Oh anally labelled unless I am very mistaken! (I plan to print labels for my zip lock bags)

[LUCKYDOG]

well then thats different --- I thought it would be potluck

[cheezydemon]

........um....hopefully he meant it. I sent him a PM lol.

[macmanmatty]

Yes i ment it i have a box currently full and will send to you after christmas. Just let me know your address and All seeds are in labled packets.

[thepodpiper]

So if i were to get the package and was not interested in any of the seeds could I just send it on it's merry way maybe putting more in, or maybe not?

macmanmatty, I sent you a pm did you get it?

Dale

[PcolaHot]

I think is a great idea and I would be interested. Maybe I would find something I don't have. Maybe I could put something in there that some body else doesn't have also.

[cheezydemon]

I will send the box on to the podpiper. Did you want in Lucky Dog? Next should be pcola. This thread should track the "count me in" chronologically to be fair. If it lags, I suggest we go back to the top of the list! After all, it will look much differently after 2 or 3 stops.

Happy holidays all! Remember, post an "I'm in" if you want to be put on the list. pm's would be complicated except for providing an address to mail to.

[wordwiz]

Seems more like the "Project George" where one reports where they got a specially marked dollar from, then passes it on.

Nothing wrong with it, but I can see people who sign up down the road getting seeds in November. Plus, what if the next person on the list is overseas?

Then again, tis the season when some fat guy can come down through a chimney with a bag full of presents and not get soot marks on the floor.

Merry Christmas,

Mike

[macmanmatty]

Nothing wrong with it, but I can see people who sign up down the road getting seeds in November. Plus, what if the next person on the list is overseas?




Sorry but no overseas shipping of the seeds package, (outside of the us), will be faster and less problems with customs.

[fisting_mayfield]

Count me in on the australian leg of the box's tour!

[LUCKYDOG]

I will send the box on to the podpiper. Did you want in Lucky Dog? Next should be pcola. This thread should track the "count me in" chronologically to be fair. If it lags, I suggest we go back to the top of the list! After all, it will look much differently after 2 or 3 stops.

Happy holidays all! Remember, post an "I'm in" if you want to be put on the list. pm's would be complicated except for providing an address to mail to.

Yea I'll hop on board
I mean :oops:... IM IN

[cheezydemon]

Lol. Maybe we (or the Aussies) could get an australian box going. I don't mind shipping outside the US but it could mean some long waits and more expense. I defer to Mcmanmatty. It was his idea.

[PcolaHot]

Glad to see we are getting some people who want to do it.:)I'm in.

[cristie]

sad I won't be able to take part on it :(

[Scorpion]

:hell: I rekon us aussies should get our own pass the parcle going...save the customs issue from overseas....Im in if any one else is keen. Im in WA.

Email me: Spearo69@yahoo.com

Dave

Scorpion Chilli "hot in Hot out" :mouthonfire:

[LUCKYDOG]

sad I won't be able to take part on it :(

Why not?

[cheezydemon]

She is in Brazil.

[bentalphanerd]

who's up for $20 postage each way & customs take the lot & burn it :D? We can't play either, sorry.

[cheezydemon]

Would a normal envelope with a few seeds make it through customs? I am sending some seeds to Cristie in Brazil, should I be concerned?

[bentalphanerd]

Would a normal envelope with a few seeds make it through customs? I am sending some seeds to Cristie in Brazil, should I be concerned?

Put them in a little snap-lock bag & tape it inside a birthday card. In a standard envelope & don't declare anything....it's just a card.

That works best here.

[LUCKYDOG]

Would a normal envelope with a few seeds make it through customs? I am sending some seeds to Cristie in Brazil, should I be concerned?


I wasnt thinking again... time for new tinfoil..

I was thinking if we were making amends for our Ozzy friends then why not make it a world wide event!

[thepodpiper]

Yes it would be nice............but every time the package hit customs you would probably not see it for awhile if ever.

Dale

[LUCKYDOG]

Yea that would suck --- sorry folks

[Philipperv]

Put them in a little snap-lock bag & tape it inside a birthday card. In a standard envelope & don't declare anything....it's just a card.

That works best here.

I send and receive seeds in basically the same way. Also use a few different U.S. addresses that forward mail to me for only the 41 cent stamp and can mail out for the same price. If we are talking about 4-5 varieties sent this way and not an actual parcel/package then count me in. I'll throw in some Philippine, Thai and Taiwanese varieties.

[Pam]

who's up for $20 postage each way & customs take the lot & burn it :D? We can't play either, sorry.

Yabut, if there was something some Aussie's were really interested in, some USA'er might pluck a few seeds and send that Aussie a card.


Count me in, btw.

[gardenkiller]

Count me in too!

[Biscombe]

Spain ok? I would love to join in, would all the seeds be pure though?

[thepodpiper]

Has this got off the ground yet? where is the package at this point?

Dale

[macmanmatty]

I believe that the package is in the hands of cheesydemon

[cmpman1974]

I like the idea as well. :) Dale, just drop the package at my door..lol. Save the postage. We're only 20-30 miles from each other. Kidding.

Chris

[cheezydemon]

It is on it's way to Dale (the PP).


Spain and the Phillipines are out. God bless Mcmanmatty, there must have been 80 or so seed packets just from him. Too much for a Bday card.

I think Pcola was next? PM the Pod Piper to get it. This is too great!

[cmpman1974]

Put me on the distribution list please...Let me know my place in line. :) Great idea!!

Chris

[cheezydemon]

Recap:(so we don't have to look back through every page)

I had it
Pod Piper will get it next & send to
Pcola, then to
Fisting Mayfield
Lucky Dog
Pam
Garden Killer

edit: i will just leave that in there, but I wasn't frowning lol, random smilies amuse me.

[macmanmatty]

your list was a little off cheesy we can't send the box out of the country

it should be from you to pod piper
then to pcola hot
then to lucky dog
then to pam
then to gardenkiller
then to cmpman1974

[cheezydemon]

Doh! Right you are. :((lol)

I suggest that we loop the list if no one else is smart enough to sign up for this. At least 2 go arounds are in order since we will all contribute something different.

[rainbowberry]

Can I just say that this has worked very well with Woody in the UK and EU countries. For problems with customs and postage costs maybe next time it would be better to do a US one, Australian one, and Europe one (can't the really desired varieties someone wants be done the usual way?). Going back to an earlier question you just take the seeds you'd like out of the parcel, add your spares then pass it on. If you don't need any of the varieties you just pass it on.

[PcolaHot]

I PM PP early this morning to give my address. It sounds like everyone is haveing fun with this.

[cheezydemon]

Indeed. Much fun! Just looking through that many varieties made my head spin.

[chilehunter]

I dont want to butt in & I'm not taking part of this but whos to say someone doesnt take all the seeds & only put 1 kind back in or something like that. I'd think you would of put a limit on the number of kind of chiles seeds you can take & how many you must contribute (if you take?)- some kind of exchange ratio. really whos to say someone doesnt take all the good seeds & put back 1 packet of jalapenos!

I can see flaws in this vs just plan ol' asking for what seeds you're looking for or have to give like in the basic seed exchange section of THP.

[pharmerlaura]

We just did this here in the States. It is called a round robin. The person who started it put all the people who wanted to be in on it..their addresses on labels. It does cost everyone postage who wishes to be in on it. I paid almost $ 7.00 to mail it to a neighboring state. You put in pretty much the same amount of seed you wish to take out. In fact the package is still traveling. On its way to Canada. :onfire::onfire:

[thepodpiper]

pharmerlaura, what do we have to do to get in on that one as well?

Dale

[Biscombe]

Anyone up for a Europe one? Is it worth doing? I don't mind organizing................ I don't have saved seeds this time round but can put in at least 6 new generous packets (Spanish don't scrimp on portions!!) to start us off. PM if you are interested..........
PS sorry for butting in here!!

[POTAWIE]

Woody already started one in Europe but you'll have to check the chilligalore forum for details. Now for a Canadian one.

[cheezydemon]

If anyone here is selfish enough to just take them all and not leave any, then why would they stick to a limit or even bother to mail it on? If you aren't participating then mind your own business. This is a good natured good faith endeavor. If you don't like it, post somewhere else you over opinionated jerk. This was all so positive and happy before your arrival.

[woody]

The UK and Europe PTP is going great guns, we have had no problems with people taking more than they need, the pepper community is a great bunch and i for one would always put in more than i take and i think i speak for most. If you are in the UK or europe just log in to chillisgalore (http://www.chillisgalore.co.uk) and you will find the post under chatter.
PTP #2 will be off and running around end Feb/March

[cheezydemon]

Amen Woody! And thanks for the inspiration!

Those who are most suspicious of others are most likely suspicious because they know what wrong doing they themselves are capable of.

[LUCKYDOG]

Its not like we dont post here everyday anyways. The tweener that did that would be found out soon enough and be beatin severly with a Herring.

NEEP

How about making this a sticky for the future list of people that want to be on board?

[cheezydemon]

Good idea Lucky.

Sorry for the harshness of my post, it is just that 99% of the people on this site are as cool as can be, and then there are those few who constantly just want to poop on your parade.

We will have the name and address of everyone who participates! Lighten up.

[cristie]

Good idea Lucky.

Sorry for the harshness of my post, it is just that 99% of the people on this site are as cool as can be, and then there are those few who constantly just want to poop on your parade.

We will have the name and address of everyone who participates! Lighten up.

cheezydemon, unfortunately they are everywhere and in every community :)

Just try to ignore them and keep on the very nice thing you guys are doing here (and I will give the idea to the Brazilian community)!

[thepodpiper]

From the names that I see on the list so far I believe that everyone knows that this is not a means to stockpile your trading stock it is a means to grow something new this year or maybe next. I myself think that taking 8 to 10 seeds is more than sufficient. Some of the packs that I am putting in have hundreds of seeds in them others might have 10 or less if they do by all means if you are going to grow them take them if not pass em on.

This is a good thing lets keep it that way.:)

Dale

[chilehunter]

If anyone here is selfish enough to just take them all and not leave any, then why would they stick to a limit or even bother to mail it on? If you aren't participating then mind your own business. This is a good natured good faith endeavor. If you don't like it, post somewhere else you over opinionated jerk. This was all so positive and happy before your arrival.


oh arnt we a little touchy :rolleyes: I was just making a comment. you all are making so many rules for the chile growing contest but yet fail to make rules for seed exchange in this pass the package around. I'd think someone with some smarts would of thought of this for "just incase"

FYI I wouldnt be one of those people "take many & leave few" but you're telling me this thought never went through your mind ? whos to say someone pulls out all the good ones & only put some half-ass chiles seeds back or less than what they pulled out.I'm not saying ALL of them & leave none.


I never said it was a bad idea, I just analyze things. mind my own biz! well is this not a forum where you can speak freely & exchange thoughts ? if you have a problem with someone putting their 2 cents in, then it seems like you cant handle the truth :lol:

I understand the good faith part of this, but remember your good faith can mean something else for someone else on the seed exchange ratio.

[cmpman1974]

I think everything will run very smoothly. Most people respect rules well in the Chilehead community. I nearly always include 5-6 extra varieties for trading partners to be nice when I can. I never forget the generosity of people like John F and many others extended when I first got involved in this hobby 3+ years ago.

Chris

[chilehunter]

I'm not raining on your parade, just addressing a legitimate issue. you only have to look at the 1st page to see right from the getgo there was some that thought this idea was dumb, but for some strange reason I'm the bad guy for bringing a issue up :rolleyes: by the way did I ever say this is dumb ? no I did not. but others did, I see a double standard.

I just find it ironic in the chile growing contest everyone was discussing rules for the contest & trying to break it all down even to a point of how to water :rolleyes: it seemed like people were all affraid of others cheating. the prize is not even tangible!

these are the same people you said you trust, but I find it funny you cant even trust them for a contest with a prize thats not even tangible :lol:

maybe cheezy got all defensive because he planned on doing this - take more than you put back or take all the good ones & leave some store bought packets of jalapenos or ?

its a legitimate issue that should of been addressed, I'm not raining on your parade so get a grip.

[POTAWIE]

I don't think the contest rules were anything to do with cheating, just trying to make it fair for everyone
People in the online growing communities are so generous that I don't see a problem with passing the parcel. I imagine many people will actually contribute much more than they take. Some of us have more seeds than we know what to do with and gladly give them away.

[chilehunter]

just trying to make it fair for everyone



so making a contest "fair" for everyone was really important when theres only bragging rights involved.
but when it comes to a seed exchange package
thats being sent around & people have to pay, what ? you say about $7 ? to reship the package. when it comes to this you dont think its that important to make it "fair" for those taking part of this seed exchange parcel. gotcha, I understand now ;)

all I'm saying is I would of thought there would be some stipulations in place, you know to make it "fair" for everyone.
something like take only same ammount you can contribute or close & not taking all the hard to find seeds,or the really good ones, etc....

you can get the thought out of your head of me trying to rain on your parade, which I am not. just saying why not make it "fair" to those taking part of this pass the seed package.

I think its a good idea, but will not be taking part this year since I have nothing to offer for seeds in exchange, but maybe after next season if this is still around (I'm gonna save seeds this season coming up & try again to grow from seeds)

[cheezydemon]

I decided to take chilehunter's idea and keep all of the seeds. I have been plowing up my entire yard to have room for all of the plants I will have this spring.

Also I have been opening random packets to sprinkle on my pizza. Yummy! Thanks all!:rolleyes:


Actually due to a newborn in the hospital, I have only just gotten the box to the post office this morning. (shipped priority) I am so sorry!

But I think that Dale will find that no more seeds will fit into the box without a lot of work.

[POTAWIE]

so making a contest "fair" for everyone was really important when theres only bragging rights involved.

I don't think you could have any contest without rules and I still don't see the conection to the parcel passing?

[woody]

so making a contest "fair" for everyone was really important when theres only bragging rights involved.
but when it comes to a seed exchange package
thats being sent around & people have to pay, what ? you say about $7 ? to reship the package. when it comes to this you dont think its that important to make it "fair" for those taking part of this seed exchange parcel. gotcha, I understand now

Chilehunter,
you are making yourself look silly now.

[cheezydemon]

He likes to do that.
http://www.thehotpepper.com/showthread.php?t=3082&highlight=feral+cats

That is why I jumped in so violently, I am just tired of him jacking threads and making them about something negative.

[LUCKYDOG]

But I think that Dale will find that no more seeds will fit into the box without a lot of work.
An even bigger box! that will be what $7.25 to mail?!
I have seen many seeds that will be in there selling for a heck of a lot more than that. Its just a fun thing its not like I dont/wont have any more seeds for myself especially after this season is over with, I am hoping to find some unusual seeds that are not so mind blowingly hot but enjoyable and great to look at as well.

[LUCKYDOG]

your list was a little off cheesy we can't send the box out of the country

it should be from you to pod piper
then to pcola hot
then to lucky dog
then to pam
then to gardenkiller
then to cmpman1974

Doh! Right you are. :((lol)

I suggest that we loop the list if no one else is smart enough to sign up for this. At least 2 go arounds are in order since we will all contribute something different.

Bump

[cheezydemon]

I was blown away Lucky, Mcmanmatty gets all of the credit. He provided an excellent base. I took 12 packets and contributed probably 11 or so.

Mcmanmatty had duplicates of many which was good because several people can get a sample of the same ones. I followed suit where I could and did not duplicate any of his. I did put them in a smaller box since the box they came in was taped up good and I opened it like a f**ing christmas present lol.

Shipping was $5. An incredible deal for 12 or so varieties that I could not buy locally, and even if I could, not for 5 times the price.

Many varieties that I had not even heard of. Too cool.

Being a new grower I felt that no one would expect me to put in more than I took, also my contributions were some that I have never seen mentioned here, and that I honestly felt added much value to the project.

[chilehunter]

He likes to do that.
http://www.thehotpepper.com/showthread.php?t=3082&highlight=feral+cats

That is why I jumped in so violently, I am just tired of him jacking threads and making them about something negative.


well 1st I thought it was a legitimate concern about passing the parcel around, but I guess it is not. I thought there'd be some rules to it.discussing maybe some rules about passing the parcel around is not hijacking a thread!

cheezwiz - how was I hijacking this thread when I was talking about the seed parcel & thought there'd be some rules to it, how is that hijacking this thread ? FYI look around at the threads all over this forum & you WILL find everyone else hijacking threads, even me sometimes. but in your eyes I guess I'm the only one that does this :rolleyes:

another thing you think I'm so negative, well you can look through my posts I've made & you'll find out for yourself I dont post alot of negative things, but I'll admit yes I do sometimes but ohwell lifes a bitch aint it! that someone might disagree with you :rolleyes: I'll remember next time to always agree with the almighty cheezwiz

another thing cheezwiz are you not hijacking this thread right now by bringing up something way off subject to this thread ;) feral cats! & I stand by what I've said before in that thread, once that cat leaves your house its nothing more than a feral cat which is a invasive species to wildlife - wack'em & stack'em
you cat owners are the ones so out of touch with reality!

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/fwt/back_issues/december98/cats.html


bravo cheezy :clap: you just hijacked this thread by bringing up that subject.

[POTAWIE]

Maybe we should pass the peace pipe:whistle:

[cheezydemon]

I'm IN!! lol.
(damn this is good pizza! I have Datil seeds on it, a few trinidad perfume........)

[cheezydemon]

Get it yet Dale?

[thepodpiper]

Yes, I got it and it has been sent out. I think our number one priority is to make the labels legible I had a really hard time trying to figure out most of the packets so I only got 1 variety.

Dale

[Pam]

Yes, I got it and it has been sent out. I think our number one priority is to make the labels legible I had a really hard time trying to figure out most of the packets so I only got 1 variety.

Dale

I was worried about that, and I thought I would print the variety name on my label maker, and include a printed sheet with variety descriptions. My handwriting is appalling!

[thepodpiper]

Pam, that is a good idea to write a description about the varieties that you put in although room is at a premium in the small box. I think that at some point moving it to a bubble envelope might be a good idea and cheaper to send (maybe).

Dale

[Dethwind]

I'm in if its not too late.

Pm me for my address

[cheezydemon]

I think mine were pretty legible. They are in the smaller bags if anyone wants to pm me for more info.

There is no attatchment to the box. Put the seeds in whatever you want to ship. As long as it holds them all safely, I don't see what it matters.

[LUCKYDOG]

ON its way to Connecticut woot woot

[Pam]

ON its way to Connecticut woot woot

So, I should be pm'ing you my address, correct?

'cause you're going to rush it right to South Carolina, correct?

[cmpman1974]

That parcel is making it's way around the U.S. fast. :) It'll be in Michigan again before I know it.

Let me know when my address is needed. Thanks!!!!

Chris

[Canuk Pepperhead]

ah heck im in this should be cool whom do I pm for this?

[macmanmatty]

new list is

pam to
garden killer to
cmpman1974 to
dethwind to
canuck pepperhead to
macmanmatty

in order to get the box sent each person should pm the next person on list for their address.


Thanks

Macmanmatty

[thepodpiper]

macmanmatty, so you are the first on the list and we will start the cycle over again, am i correct in saying that?

Dale

[LUCKYDOG]

So, I should be pm'ing you my address, correct?

'cause you're going to rush it right to South Carolina, correct?

Yes Dear and Yes Dear ;)

I havent received it yet hopefully today....

[cheezydemon]

I'm in for the re-up.

I suggest we look at this thread often in case anyone has problems with non-legible packets. People would hopefully recognize which ones were theirs.

So far as I can tell....

The larger packets are Mcmannmatty's
The smaller ones with black permanent marker are mine
Pod Piper sent me a couple of seeds and the packets appear to be the same small ones as mine, probably with more technical labels(if I had to guess).
Feel free to ask me about any of mine.

[AlabamaJack]

Is it too late to get in on the "pass the package" deal?....I just took inventory last night of seeds and seems I have a abundance...see my other post here...I can reduce the availability of everything on there and have seeds to contribute to the package plus I might get some I don't have.

[cheezydemon]

Never too late! I am sure Mcmannmatty agrees, better to hit everyone before it comes back around.

So Canuck, please send it to AJ.
(I replied to your other seed post AJ, thanks for sharing!)

[AlabamaJack]

(I replied to your other seed post AJ, thanks for sharing!)

Good deal Cheezy...and you are welcome.

[GrumpyBear]

So where did Canada land on the do's and don'ts? Cuz if i could get in too that'd be great

[cheezydemon]

Damn it!!! I wish we could do Canada. Surely shipping there is no biggie?

[thepodpiper]

It's not the postage we're worried about it is customs. I have no problem trading one on one with anyone anywhere, my list is always open for trading.

Dale

[PcolaHot]

Hey guys the box of seeds are on there way to Luckydog as we speak. Let me tell you there were tons of seeds in this box and still are. i agree that we need to title the bags of seeds a little better also. I think is a great idea and can't wait to see it go around again.:onfire:

[POTAWIE]

It appears Canuk is out of luck too. Grumpy and Canuk, I still have a good variety of seeds if I can help. I just don't have an up to date list right now.

[cheezydemon]

Maybe after both US and CANADIAN boxes get going for a while, we can find some practical way to switch them. Just once across the borders. That might not be such a big deal.

[PcolaHot]

I agree Cheezy.

[POTAWIE]

There is no Canadian box is there?

[cheezydemon]

I thought you were making one potowie! lol

[POTAWIE]

No, I have no need for more seeds. I've already sent out thousands of seeds and I usually try to wrap up trading by January. This year I plan on donating my extra seeds to Kato's seed exchange which I should do shortly.

[cheezydemon]

Right on. What is Kato's?

[POTAWIE]

Kato is a member here who makes some great hot sauces and has his own seed exchange and forum.

http://katoproductions.com/

[cheezydemon]

Interesting. I didn't see any info on a seed exchange. The forums link wouldn't work though. Maybe it was a glitch.

[POTAWIE]

Ya, maybe his forum is down again. He usually posts a list here of what he's got for trade.

[cheezydemon]

Right on.

[GrumpyBear]

I sent a shoe box sized package to my friend in baltimore for christmas (but, y'know, i sent it in january...i was so on the ball this christmas, let me tell you...) and it took a week to get there and cost 11 bucks. That does sound like longer from what i'm seeing you guys get domestic.
Do we even have enough canadians here to do a canuck parcel? as far as i can tell it would go between four of us...
it's not that i need seeds it just sounds fun...

[Dethwind]

so... once I get it I send it to Macmanmatty instead of Canuk? (assuming no one else signs up in the interum)

[Pam]

Anyone downstream of me interested in some cilantro seeds? I ordered two varieties from Twilley Seed - Slo Bolt and Delfino - and I got an entire ounce, which is about a gazillion seeds.

[cheezydemon]

Not big on cilantro.

Yes............*sniff* skip Canuck.

I think that the 3 or 4 Canadiens should do it, because I bet everyone would be OK with a "once a round" international box swap. By that point we each will have seen it at least once, so a different box might be good, Right?

[habman]

Do we even have enough canadians here to do a canuck parcel? as far as i can tell it would go between four of us...
it's not that i need seeds it just sounds fun...

I think we should plan a CND package for next year, I think most people are alread fully stocked and over stocked on seeds for this year...

Sometime around mid october would be about right.

And why stop at pepper seeds... we can put dry pods, powder, tomato seeds, flower seeds......

[PcolaHot]

Just wondering who has and who is getting the seed package?:lol:

[Pam]

Just wondering who has and who is getting the seed package?:lol:

LuckyDog is getting/has it. I'm next.

[AlabamaJack]

LuckyDog is getting/has it. I'm next.

Ms. Pam...you asked about cilantro earlier in this post...if you have any, I would like to try my hand at growing some...

did you get the tepins yet? If you did, have you tasted any of the flesh?

[cheezydemon]

so... once I get it I send it to Macmanmatty instead of Canuk? (assuming no one else signs up in the interum)

Just to make sure we are all on the same page.

McManmatty after Dethwind
Cheezydemon after that

Does everyone else still want it again?

Someone posted that everyone is probably all stocked, I just did not want people to have to pay to forward it on if they were already full on seeds. (but there'e always room for one more! isn't there?)

[PcolaHot]

LuckyDog is getting/has it. I'm next.


Just wanted to make sure the Luckydog received it.:lol: Ya'll enjoy it boy does it have alot of seeds in it.

[Pam]

Ms. Pam...you asked about cilantro earlier in this post...if you have any, I would like to try my hand at growing some...

I would be delighted to share with you. If you haven't grown it before, it does tend to bolt in hot weather, so I grow it like dill.


did you get the tepins yet?

Yes I did, and I meant to let you know. I plead temporary brain damage from getting noggies from my 8 yo nephew all weekend. That and having my liver cut out in the glow stick sword fight.


If you did, have you tasted any of the flesh?

Ha! I'm blonde, not stupid. I opened the card they were in and got a snoot full of hot pepper smell! After I quit sneezing, I crumbled a bit of the dried pepper in a bowl of leftover taco soup for lunch today, and it livened it up nicely.

[cheezydemon]

We will assume that everyone is up for the 2nd time around unless they say otherwise.

[AlabamaJack]

I have not received it the first time....did I miss out? If so, that is ok, I can catch it the 2nd time around.

[cheezydemon]

DOH!!!! Sorry AJ. DETHWIND SHOULD SEND IT TO AJ!!!!!!!!!
Then AJ will send it to Mcmannmatty.

Sorry, I thought this thing would tend itself a little more.

PM Dethwind with your address please AJ. It is never too late!

[AlabamaJack]

Dethwind...you have mail.....

Thank you sir...

[cheezydemon]

And suddenly....all was right with the world.....

(or at least the pepper world!lol)

[thepodpiper]

Yes i would love to see it again before it is time to sow.

Dale

[LUCKYDOG]

Got it and ready to send out... Pm'ing Pam.... by the time we're done *start Sheriff Brody imitation* "We're going to need a bigger box" end Sheriff Brody imitation

[cmpman1974]

Gardenkiller,

Private Message me and I'll give you my address. I believe you are before me. I'm not sure if you have the parcel yet or not. I need to get a UPS tracking number for this thing. :)

Chris

[Pam]

Gardenkiller,

Private Message me and I'll give you my address. I believe you are before me. I'm not sure if you have the parcel yet or not. I need to get a UPS tracking number for this thing. :)

Chris

No, he does not! I don't even have it yet.


So, what were like at Christmas as a child?

[LUCKYDOG]

Sorry for the delay Pam --- having a family issue. I will have it out by Fri the latest

[gardenkiller]

cmpman1974 I pm'ed you......now......does anyone below me on the list have any special requests? Reason for asking is that I am sure space in the box is limited, and I don't want to take up valuable space with something no one is interested in, or leave out something someone wants.

I have a couple to spare of the following-
Trinidad Scorpion
Chocolate Scotch Bonnet
Royal Black
Chilhaucle Negro

A Lot To Spare Of-
Lemon Drop
Possible Jamaican Red/Lemon Drop Cross
Jalapeno M
Purple Bird Pepper
Nepali Orange

Possibly some -
Red Savina
Trinidad Perfume
Devil's Tongue


Note---Most of these seeds were purchased and "guaranteed" to be pure, some others were harvested by myself (taking proper precautions). Just wanted to make that absolutely known just in case the off chance that some horny chile slipped past my birthcontrol methods and knocked up another pod creating a cross.

[cmpman1974]

Purple bird pepper sounds nice.

Chris


cmpman1974 I pm'ed you......now......does anyone below me on the list have any special requests? Reason for asking is that I am sure space in the box is limited, and I don't want to take up valuable space with something no one is interested in, or leave out something someone wants.

I have a couple to spare of the following-
Trinidad Scorpion
Chocolate Scotch Bonnet
Royal Black
Chilhaucle Negro

A Lot To Spare Of-
Lemon Drop
Possible Jamaican Red/Lemon Drop Cross
Jalapeno M
Purple Bird Pepper
Nepali Orange

Possibly some -
Red Savina
Trinidad Perfume
Devil's Tongue


Note---Most of these seeds were purchased and "guaranteed" to be pure, some others were harvested by myself (taking proper precautions). Just wanted to make that absolutely known just in case the off chance that some horny chile slipped past my birthcontrol methods and knocked up another pod creating a cross.

[thepodpiper]

gardenkiller, I say stick in what you can spare and what is not in the box already, thats what this is all about. Someone may not want or need it at this moment but maybe tomorrow they will. At the rate this thing is moving most will not plant these seeds this year anyway so when it gets back to me I may be planning for next years garden.

Dale

[Pam]

Sorry for the delay Pam --- having a family issue. I will have it out by Fri the latest

S'alright, don't worry.

Family before peppers.

[cheezydemon]

Indeed.

I am interested in all of the A list Garden Killer.

I don't mind starting seeds late if they are a good find!

[LUCKYDOG]

S'alright, don't worry.

Family before peppers.

I spoke out of turn.... wifey sent it out for me yesterday Pam!

[cheezydemon]

Underpromise and overdeliver! You have figured the easiest way to make people very happy with you.
Why do so many people have it backwards? (car salesman, loan officers, plumbers, electricians, seed mailer-outers lol)

[PcolaHot]

Who ever gets the package next may want to see if Omri would like to get some to start over again. I'm sure we have plenty in the box to give to him. Thought it would be a good idea. Up to ya'll.:hell:

[sdw79]

Is it too late to get in this??? I have a lot of extra seeds

[macmanmatty]

nope just add yourself ot the bottom of the list (provided you are located in the united states)

[sdw79]

Yes I live in the US, I would like to be added to the list.

[Chiliac]

Great idea! Damn, I'd love to join this....

Anyone into doing some overseas trades? I have some seeds to trade atm and will get some nice Thai and brazilian seeds as well as a load of turkish varieties during the next few weeks... Could trade some of 'em all. Just let me know.

@Gardenkiller: Some of yours are very interesting, let me know if you'd be up for a trade!

[cheezydemon]

Who has it? UPDATE PLEASE!!

[LUCKYDOG]

Pam just received from me on Fri. 2/1 took about 9 days to get to her for some reason ....it went first class.... anyways Pam has it.

[AlabamaJack]

Pam...please wipe the drool off before forwarding it on...:drooling: :whistle:

[Pam]

Pam...please wipe the drool off before forwarding it on...:drooling: :whistle:


There is no drool.


However, if some of the little packets appear well fondled...well mea culpa.

[cheezydemon]

What? NO drool? That is wierd......I distinctly remember drooling on them. Oh well, no matter.

[cmpman1974]

So where is this parcel now? :) It has to be on its way to Michigan soon I presume.

Chris

[gardenkiller]

It hasn't made it to Iowa yet, but the good news for you is that it won't have far to go from me to you. I will let you know when I get it.

[Pam]

It hasn't made it to Iowa yet, but the good news for you is that it won't have far to go from me to you. I will let you know when I get it.

Yesh, is this package cursed or what? It took what..9 days to get to me and it was shipped first class. I sent it on first class, and the guy at the post office said it should reach you by Thursday of last week.

That's ridiculous!

[AlabamaJack]

Yesh, is this package cursed or what? It took what..9 days to get to me and it was shipped first class. I sent it on first class, and the guy at the post office said it should reach you by Thursday of last week.

That's ridiculous!

Wonder if there is any "pilferage" going on with the postal inspectors...just a thought

[gardenkiller]

Well I have good news!! The package made it to Iowa!! The bad news is that I couldn't pick it up today, but will for sure get it tomorrow and send it out no later than Thursday afternoon or Friday morning. Man I am so excited to open it I wish I could break into the post office to get it. Must be too large to fit in the PO box otherwise I would be holding "the goods" right now.

[gardenkiller]

Hey cmpman hopefully all of this snow doesn't slow down the mail service. I am sure you got part or all of the 15 inches of snow we have had in the last week. By the way, bird purple is also called flourescent purple just to clear up any confusion, but I will still throw some in if not already in the box.

[LUCKYDOG]

Yesh, is this package cursed or what? It took what..9 days to get to me and it was shipped first class. I sent it on first class, and the guy at the post office said it should reach you by Thursday of last week.

That's ridiculous!

Seems to be taking longer and longer.... Wonder if the P.O. is xraying it or setting it aside for drugs. I hear that the Endorphin Rush is the newest rage drug

[cheezydemon]

Hmmmm. As far as I know, Washington and Oregon are the only states with funky shipping regulations.

You can't ship Hops rhizomes in or out of there for some reason.

[gardenkiller]

OK kiddies I have the box sitting here as I type. WOW that is a bunch of seeds. Will be sending the box off tomorrow morning should be a quick trip to Minnesota. I didn't have many left, but "the scorpion" is now in the box!

[titeWoozy]

I am interested in getting some new seeds, count me in.

[cmpman1974]

We got maybe 3-4" only of snow. Enough for me though. Even 1/8" is more than I ever like to see. Unfortunately, I live in Michigan so I'm out of luck. lol. I'll let you know when the parcel arrives. :) It's not over the 50 lb mark yet, right? lol.

Chris


Hey cmpman hopefully all of this snow doesn't slow down the mail service. I am sure you got part or all of the 15 inches of snow we have had in the last week. By the way, bird purple is also called flourescent purple just to clear up any confusion, but I will still throw some in if not already in the box.

[gardenkiller]

haha michigan huh......dunno where I got minnesota from

[AlabamaJack]

Cheezy or someone....can you tell me where I am on the list please?

[Dethwind]

as far as I know this is the current order

pam to
garden killer to
cmpman1974 to
dethwind to
AlabamaJack to
sdw79 to
titeWoozy to
macmanmatty (starts all over again.)

[AlabamaJack]

thanks D.

[macmanmatty]

as far as I know this is the current order

pam to
garden killer to
cmpman1974 to
dethwind to
AlabamaJack to
sdw79 to
titeWoozy to
macmanmatty (starts all over again.)

That is the correct order.

[cheezydemon]

"....And so it came to pass, that the great parcel did runneth over, and the fruits of it's bounty were spread...er... even to the snowy depths of darkest Michigan. And in the following year, the cries of those finding great joy in a real deep burn could be heard from one coast to the other....AMEN!..."

Last night I dreamed that I grew a naga that was 7 inches long. It was bright red, and I was pretty sure that it was going to kill me.....but eat it I did! Fiery it was! lol

[AlabamaJack]

you seem to be waxing poetic today Cheezy....Valentines eve must have been good to you......

[gardenkiller]

Box is in the mail!

[cheezydemon]

you seem to be waxing poetic today Cheezy....Valentines eve must have been good to you......

Can't complain AJ.

[gardenkiller]

hey cmpman did you get the box yet??

[cmpman1974]

It didn't arrive yet. I was thinking today, but nope. Maybe tomorrow. :)

Chris

[imaguitargod]

I got a box today. Does that count?

[LUCKYDOG]

As history has shown if you mailed the box out on 2/14 you may not see it till maybe the 22nd the earliest and most certainly by the 25th the latest

[Pam]

Can the next person to mail the box ask why it is taking so long? We're all paying for better service than that, but we're not getting what we paid for. It might be better to put in a different size or shape box.

[LUCKYDOG]

I got a box today. Does that count?

We all decided to help you out for a place to live... We have endearingly called it Pass the Passow... Now just get inside this wont hurt a bit

[imaguitargod]

We all decided to help you out for a place to live... We have endearingly called it Pass the Passow... Now just get inside this wont hurt a bit
I'm not fooling for that old.....oh, look! There's a beer at the end of the box!

: crawls in :

[cheezydemon]

I'm not fooling for that old.....oh, look! There's a beer at the end of the box!

: crawls in :

HA HA!! AHH yes....and speaking of seeds and beer...... All in good fun, but if you don't get those out by the end of the week I will have to start calling you ADD instead of IGG;).

[imaguitargod]

HA HA!! AHH yes....and speaking of seeds and beer...... All in good fun, but if you don't get those out by the end of the week I will have to start calling you ADD instead of IGG;).

They are going out in tomarrow's mail.

[cheezydemon]

They are going out in tomarrow's mail.


Good Man.;)...

Damn it, I find most of my posts these days endfing in;)


OH WELL!;)

[LUCKYDOG]

Cmpman should be getting the parcel any time now!:whistle:

[cheezydemon]

Patience Lucky! You are lucky to get it later. It had good variety when I got it early, but I am willing to bet that there are a ton more varieties now!

[cmpman1974]

Still haven't got the parcel today. I'm confused???

Chris

[Pam]

Still haven't got the parcel today. I'm confused???

Chris


This is so frustrating. It's not like we're shipping lead. I wonder if the small size of the box makes it get over looked? Should we put the box in an envelope?

[Canuk Pepperhead]

I got a box today. Does that count?
Was it with pie????

[AlabamaJack]

If it was lemon merangue pie, it will surely be spoiled once it gets to me...

[Pepp3rFreak]

I'm not sure who's currently on and where the list is for rotation or what it entails to get on it, but, I'd love to check out 'The Box' for a day to see if there's anything of interest to me, and I'd happily throw in some Naga Morich, Fatalii, Jamacian Scotch Bonnet, Red Savina hab, Chocolate hab, Carribean hab, Trinidad Congo, and bishops crown. (<-- sorry long run on sentence) If it were sent to me I promise to have it back out to the next person within 24hrs.

Thanks

[gardenkiller]

I cannot believe this thing hasn't gotten there yet I shipped it on the morning of Valentines Day!! Freakin mail service is worthless. Need to bring back the pony express, now they could deliver on time!!

[cmpman1974]

I agree. I'm a bit disappointed with my Postal service lately. All kind of mix-ups and delays. Whenever I drop things off at the Post Office, it's an ordeal. 50 people waiting in line and 2 clerks just standing there acting like no one's waiting taking their sweet old time. I wish I could ignore "pressure" circumstances at my job and still have one. lol.

I'll see if I can put the seeds in a large envelope or some other method to expedite shipping when it gets here. I'm not making promises because I don't know what or how much is in it yet. I'll do my best. :)

Chris


I cannot believe this thing hasn't gotten there yet I shipped it on the morning of Valentines Day!! Freakin mail service is worthless. Need to bring back the pony express, now they could deliver on time!!

[Philipperv]

I could participate it someone started a padded envelope pack (resealable or course). I'm using the FPO military mail system and can't receive any kind of boxes or packages. Could throw in Bhut Jolokia (from NMSU), 7 Pot, Naga Morich, Dorset Naga and some local goodies.

[imaguitargod]

Was it with pie????

Nope, it was filled with hot sauce from Arturo's Hot Flavors of Hawaii. They want me to do a review. I can use them on pie though.

[LUCKYDOG]

Patience Lucky! You are lucky to get it later. It had good variety when I got it early, but I am willing to bet that there are a ton more varieties now!

I was an early one as well Cheezy.... when I sent it to Pam it took about 9 or so days.....

[cmpman1974]

Another day, no parcel....maybe tomorrow. Sorry everyone. Didn't mean to hold the boat up. I'm starting to feel bad about this whole situation. I just wanted to glance in the package, add a few things, and expeditiously ship it forward. Things aren't going as expected.

Chris

[AlabamaJack]

how much does the package weigh and what are the diimensions?

[cmpman1974]

I was starting to think it weighed 63 lbs and is in a 6 ft tube roll box. :)

Chris

[gardenkiller]

The post office sucks!! It got returned to my mailbox either today or saturday afternoon with no note, or anything. I know it had enough postage because the lady at the window did the metered postage thing with it. I double checked the addy and am resending it, hopefully it gets there this time. Seriously guys I am sorry that the Iowa postal system sucks!

[LUCKYDOG]

Nobody wants it to die on there watch! I felt horrible too when I sent it to Pam and it didnt get for what seemed like forever.
The Box is about 3"x8" probably weighs 1lb Im guessing. Maybe we need something a little bigger from the Post Office?

[AlabamaJack]

Here is an option...I was trying to find out how much these are. I know we used a flat rate box when we were mailing "support packages" to several soldiers in Iraq.

http://www.usps.com/rates/priority-mail-rates.htm

[LUCKYDOG]

Thats the one I was looking for AJ I was hoping they would show the picture of'em. We can put the seed in a bubble envelope inside the box. Wonder what shipping charges would be?

[AlabamaJack]

Haven't been able to find out but am trying...the "flat rate" may apply to international only...I just don't know...here's a picture of several different kind of flat rate boxes...

http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13359&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=11820&top_category=11820

[abf303]

i would like to get in on this. i have a few packs of seeds i could throw in. let me know when you need my address:)

[cmpman1974]

OK, I not believe the parcel exists as I received it today.

I'll be forwarding it on tomorrow probably to the next person. A few comments I hope are helpful:

- There is no reason to be spending $5 to ship this thing at this point in time. We're not talking about many varieties. I'll be mailing in a large bubble mailer first class. It should arrive faster. Note, I say "should." We all know how dependable the USPS is.

- Fixed all seed labels I thought were illegible. Everything is easy to read now.

- Added variety species to every one.

- Consolidated packets of the same variety into one. I understand why it was split initially. I figured someone who wants the variety can take the time to pull out a small number of seeds for personal use. It makes it less daunting to scan indiviual varieties.

Lastly, below is a snapshot of the contents as of 2/28/08. I'll be adding some varieties not listed yet before dropping it in the mail. Sometimes curiousity kills the cat so I thought the next people in line may appreciate the overview!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/cmpman1974/2008%20Miscellaneous%20Pictures/THPPasstheParcelListing.jpg

If this stuff was not helpful, ignore my rambling. I'm just trying to help as many people on this forum have been great. Ideas like these are great, and I think it could get even better in the future.

Chris


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[cmpman1974]

FYI, last thing, the envelope only weights 3-4 oz. :)

Chris

[cmpman1974]

You're next Dethwynd (Isaac), right? If not, someone in charge of this, please correct me. Thanks. Isaac forwarded me this mailing address a while back. I'm using that one.

Chris

[cmpman1974]

Postage for this parcel is $1.31 for a 4 oz "large envelope." It does not exceed 3/4" in thickness. Bubble mailer is 11" wide x 8" long.

Chris

[cmpman1974]

And here's the new list after my additions. ;)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/cmpman1974/2008%20Miscellaneous%20Pictures/THPPasstheParcelListing-1.jpg

Chris

[Pepp3rFreak]

Very nice job with the informational write up and fixing up of the parcel! There's quite a variety of peppers in there!

[Pam]

Ah...can I suggest the seed packets from different donators not be combined? Seeds from different sources can be slightly different.

Also, Rocotillo is a chinense.

[cmpman1974]

Pam, I could obviuously tell the varieties I combined were from the same exact donator. Same writing on the packs. I never would have done it otherwise. :)

There are multiple versions of Rocotillo (C. Chin) and (C. Bac). The C. Baccatum strain is much more common. Did you donate these seeds? If so, let me change the species name because obviously you know. lol. Thanks for the update.

Chris

[rainbowberry]

When we did it in England I got a bit of a telling off for mentioning one variety that was inside it (I'll say a bit of a telling off because that person who gave me that 'bit of a telling off' is registered on here and it wasn't Woody). I was told Pass the Parcel was meant to be a secret/surprise :shocked: I prefer your rules because I've got a big mouth.

[cmpman1974]

I really hope I didn't offend anyone with a list. The intent is for the package to go round and round so it will constantly change by the next time it arrives. As new participants join, new varieties most likely will be added.

I mainly did it because I remember some confusion about variety names and I thought adding species would be helpful for newer growers. I know it took me a long time to be able to identify which varieties fall into C. Baccatum, C. Chinense, etc.

Learning the whole government pepper scheme is another level too!

For anyone interested in those C. Praetermissum seeds I donated, note 1 dried pod has 12+ seeds in them so you don't need to take the whole packet thinking there's one seed in each as other wild capsicums! Spread the wealth. It's a neat variety. :)

Chris

[LUCKYDOG]

Thanks Cmpman I know some them were ver hard to read the lables so thanks for clarifying all that and make sense of it

[rainbowberry]

I really hope I didn't offend anyone with a list.

Chris

I think it's nice to know what's in it, especially for the people who arn't able to take part. I took a photo of the parcel when I had it in England so others could see it. I'm sure no ones offended at all Chris.

[cmpman1974]

I just thought about something. Anyone seed Dethwind post lately? I sent the parcel to him, but I hope he's still active on the forum! I don't track every category of postings. I'm sure all is fine, but Dethwind if you could, confirm you're still reading. :)

Chris

[Dethwind]

I'm still here, I dont post much but I check the forums every day. The parcel arrived yesterday and will be mailed out to AlabamaJack in the next day or so.

[cmpman1974]

Great. Thanks for letting us know Dethwind. Also, I'm glad it arrived safely. Hope you're season is great this year!

Chris

[AlabamaJack]

Dethwind...pm'ed you my mailing address...

and I assume SDW79 is next after me?

[cmpman1974]

No AJ, you're too addicted. We can't let you access any more varieties or you'll start 10 more projects. lol.

Chris

[AlabamaJack]

No AJ, you're too addicted. We can't let you access any more varieties or you'll start 10 more projects. lol.

Chris


You know I will have to start another tray...:lol:

There are a few on the list I would like to try but I will be adding a lot of seeds that are left over from this years planting...I will probably add at least 30 :shh: more varieties..

[Flex]

How does one go about joining this trade?

[LUCKYDOG]

Where is the parcell now? It must be getting quite extensive by now!?

[AlabamaJack]

How does one go about joining this trade?

I think Dethwind is coordinating the "pass the parcel"....

Where is the parcell now? It must be getting quite extensive by now!?

I haven't received it yet but I will be out the door within 2 days after I receive it....

[cheezydemon]

Good God! Until it looks like it will lap, I am no longer keeping up.

If you are in th US Flex, you are in, you may need to look back to see who is before you and pm them an address.

[LUCKYDOG]

pam to
garden killer to
cmpman1974 to
dethwind to
AlabamaJack to
sdw79 to
titeWoozy to
macmanmatty
Flex???

[Flex]

Im in AUS, but i dont mind paying the person who is posting it to me extra to compensate them..

[AlabamaJack]

can't do it because of export/import laws......

heck, you guys in Aus should get one started...Stillz, Bent, BB, Tony, etc may be interested...

[abf303]

i think i might have to join in on this, i have some seeds to throw in

[Flex]

can't do it because of export/import laws......

heck, you guys in Aus should get one started...Stillz, Bent, BB, Tony, etc may be interested...


Thats rather gay :(

Oh well thanks anyway.

[AlabamaJack]

Thats rather gay :(

Oh well thanks anyway.


Go back and read this thread from the start...

[bentalphanerd]

Thats rather gay :(

Oh well thanks anyway.

Flex : trying to import a parcel of fresh seeds into Oz is near impossible unless they're all bagged, labelled & declared properly...& even then some customs guy may be having a bad day & just torch the whole boxful anyway.

Start a new thread in this forum about what seeds you're after, others in Oz can probably help you out.

:cool:

[cmpman1974]

I've heard getting a large box / mailer of seeds to Australia is nearly impossible. Think about how all those in the U.S. would feel who spent time to contribute.

Hey, you're not the only one in that boat. U.S. members had the same issues when we wanted to get in on the original Pass the Parcel originated by Woody in the EU. It's just not right to risk loss of time, effort, etc. when the odds are clearly against you.

One on one trades are different in my opinion. I'm willing to take chances "most times."

Chris


Thats rather gay :(

Oh well thanks anyway.

[Flex]

All i did was ask... Your acting like i kicked up a fuss about it... I totally understand.. hence why i didnt push the issue..

[AlabamaJack]

Flex...I just read my response 'bout "read the thread from the start"...that was a rather lame response...I just wanted you to know that we had discussed the Au USA connection and it was cost prohibitive...

Really, no offense meant......

[Flex]

Its ok, none taken. :)

[cmpman1974]

I didn't mean any other. Sorry if I came across the wrong way. It's been a LONG week here. I'm sure lots of growers are happy to help in anyway they can. That's what great about this hobby. Somehow, someway, we usually can grow something we're looking for. :)

Good luck with your search. I hope you're season goes well.

Chris

[Rob]

I have 7 types of seeds left over. count me in if it's not too late!

[Rob]

how do i find out who to send my address to?

[PcolaHot]

Haven't been on for awhile was wondering if its gone the 2nd round yet?

[AlabamaJack]

I'm still here, I dont post much but I check the forums every day. The parcel arrived yesterday and will be mailed out to AlabamaJack in the next day or so.

Dethwind...did you mail the parcel yet?....if you have, I have not received it yet. Your quoted post was 4 March and today is 26 March....

[theHippySeedCo]

:hell: I rekon us aussies should get our own pass the parcle going...save the customs issue from overseas....Im in if any one else is keen. Im in WA.


as winter is approaching be a gooood time for the Aussie pass the Parcel, get ready for the next season :)

[Rob]

does anyone have an official updated list?

[AlabamaJack]

Dethwind...I think I sent you a PM...but if you mailed the package, I have not received it yet...or maybe the postal service is at it again...

Sorry to post almost the same messge twice...but....

[LUCKYDOG]

That is on the long side AJ even by this parcels standards.... be a month tomorrow.....

[Sorellina]

Ciao all-

I'm so glad you guys are doing a Round Robin. They can be a lot of fun, both for the givers and the getters. It looks to me (and I'm super new here so please let me know if I'm totally out to lunch) as if there were/are some growing pains with the organization of this parcel. If I can maybe make a wee suggestion for the Fall: since Customs is an issue, and yes, it IS an issue..I've had parcels I've sent to the States never arrive even with filling out the customs sticker correctly, I suggest that each country organize their own Round Robin separately. Also, given that this parcel has taken so long to make it to everyone who wanted to be involved, perhaps setting a limit on the timing of starting it and a cut-off for people to join. I know maybe that sounds harsh, but if the organization part of it happens in the Fall when all of us are doing our seed-saving, it's possible that we may be able to get things going in the post before Christmas. That way all of us will have the seeds well in time to start them (well at least those of us in the Northern Hemisphere..Aussies and Kiwis start upside down and on their heads :shocked:).

How does that sound? Don't all throw composted Nagas at me if you hate the idea, it's just some thoughts from someone who's been involved with Round Robins that worked and ones that were major headaches and disappointments.

[AlabamaJack]

sounds pretty good Sorellina but I thought that is what we had done...limited it to US and were supposed to get it out pretty quick after we received it....but as you see, the package is no where in sight and didn't leave the USA>....

[Sorellina]

Ciao AJ-

I didn't read all the posts, but I did scan most of it and I saw that you'd kept the Round Robin to the US. What I was imagining was the possibility of several different threads with a main organizer for each one, representing say Aussie/Kiwi, Caribbean, SE Asia, Europe, Canada, and then of course one for the US. I've also been involved in swaps where just 1 person organizes the whole thing, everyone sends 25 varieties or something to that one person, maybe 5 copies of each variety and gets something like 100 back. There has to be a lot of trust involved with that kind of swap, someone people have traded with in the past and has a good reputation. It takes a lot of organizational skill and someone with the time to sort out all the parcels and go through all the wish lists. I've seen it work and I've also seen it not work (parcels getting mysteriously lost in the post).

These kinds of swaps are notoriously slow, so starting the mailing process as early as possible is really the key thing.

What do you guys think? Overall, have you been happy with this swap? What ideas do you have to help make future ones go smoother?

[Sydtunes]

I'm in for the Parcel !!!

[thepodpiper]

I have to agree with Sorellina, there has to be a cut off at some point and also there has to be a certain amount of time you have to be a member or a certain amount of posts that you have to have to get in this type of thing because it is not fair to the first few that get in and never see it again. Sorry to be the stick in the mud on this thing but people can get in this thing the day they find this site and I just think it is not right.

Dale

[Sorellina]

Ciao Dale-

Excellent point about the new member issue. I totally forgot to mention that. You're absolutely right, and the reason for that is that it keeps people who "troll" forums for seeds or other things don't take advantage of people's kindness and generosity. Perhaps the moderators can come up with a number of posts they deem to be long enough that people here are well-acquainted and not liable to take advantage. If you think about it, a lot of things in life require some sort of "trial period", where trust is built up before handing over the keys to the kingdom. I think people would be fine with the idea. What does everyone else think about this?

[AlabamaJack]

I like the "trial period" idea....out of the clear blue sky, I choose one hundred (100)....if you post a little more than three a day for a month that will get you there....

[thepodpiper]

I also think the cut-off idea has to be used because like I said earlier some people at the beginning really did not have a chance at any real varieties of seeds and may never get the chance if we allow people to just keep getting in. After it has made it's rounds then if everyone wants more people in so be it. JMO.:lol:

Dale

[AlabamaJack]

OK...since we are talking about "rules of engagement" for the parcel, how about time of year to do it and the order of the list of members there are.

I trust the members of this site and because of that I belive most people will put in new varieties not already in the package...probably put more seeds in than they took out...if not new varieties, then good seeds of varieties already there...one thing else I would like to see on the seed packets is when the seeds were harvested/bought...

You may say the order I am suggesting is because I live in the south...not at all for the suggestion...I suggest the order should be from south to north first because of the different plant out dates...I would like to have all the seeds I am planting in hand and ready to go by January 15th...plant Feb 1 and plant backups march 1...so cutoff date would be January 1 for the US...

Or...do we keep it as a "first come, first serve" basis? Either way is fine for me really...but I do like the January 1 cutoff date...
I am ready for the flak the order clause suggestion will bring...unless everyone understands my reasoning behind it...

[Sorellina]

Ciao AJ-

The Round Robins I've participated in were always first come first served, but I think your idea has merit as well. As a member of Seed Savers Exchange, I can tell you that here in Canada, we're one of the last to receive the Yearbook, usually arriving some time in March. If we're to have any chance at all of getting our seeds before we need to start them, orders must be filled out and mailed straight away. For those growing peppers, however, even in glacial zone 5, it's already too late. When do most of you have your seed saving in Fall wrapped up? That would be the time to start the mailing process, I would think. You can decide if you want it to go in geographical or order in which people sign up, but regardless, a cut-off date for signing up would probably be a good idea.

[AlabamaJack]

Since this is my first year growing from seed, I decided back in October to get things in order...I had 90% of the varieties I am growing by middle of December....

[Pam]

If we do a south to north rotation, it would mean we could start earlier. Since we have earlier plant out dates, we can have seeds ready to go earlier in the season. I would suggest we start in August.

I would also suggest that we consider a maximum number of participants. Even if a participant sorts and mails within a couple of days, I think you have to figure on a week/person. If 15 to 20 people opt in, we're looking at it taking to December for the package to make its first round.

If there is enough interest, we could have more than one package making the rounds at a time.

[AlabamaJack]

August would be fine with me since I will have seeds available by then...(hopefully)...