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shayneyasinski
12-15-2007, 02:06 PM
Chocolate Scotch Bonnet
Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scopion
Habanero - Red
Habanero, Chocolate
Peter Pepper - Orange
Bhut Jolokia
Tabasco
generic hot chili
pepper fish
jalapeno

I have all the seeds except the Bhut Jolokia and they are on there way.
shayne

chilehunter
12-16-2007, 02:22 AM
such a heat freak (no offense) like you, why are you growing mellow chiles like jalapenos,tabascos & couple more if they're not really hot ? I figured your list would be stacked with really hot chiles.

shayneyasinski
12-16-2007, 04:14 AM
such a heat freak (no offense) like you, why are you growing mellow chiles like jalapenos,tabascos & couple more if they're not really hot ? I figured your list would be stacked with really hot chiles.

I am not a heat freak all the time ...
I love fresh jalapenos and chili's on pasta and also to bbq.
tabasco I want to try as they are what tabasco is made of and that was my first sauce .
the rest I hope will almost kill me.

Omri
12-16-2007, 08:04 AM
Don't listen to him Shayne, Jalapeņo is one of the best peppers out there.
You know, a pepper doesn't have to be seriously hot for you to like it.

PcolaHot
12-17-2007, 12:30 AM
Chocolate Scotch Bonnet
Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scopion
Habanero - Red
Habanero, Chocolate
Peter Pepper - Orange
Bhut Jolokia
Tabasco
generic hot chili
pepper fish
jalapeno

I have all the seeds except the Bhut Jolokia and they are on there way.
shayne

Sounds like a great list to me. I just need to get my heat tasted back to where used to be.

rainbowberry
12-19-2007, 12:09 PM
I've started with:

Red Dominica
Tobago Seasoning
Antillais Caribbean
Brazilian mini bonnet
Datil
Peppadew
Rocoto orange
Jamaican Red (large)
Safi
Caribbean Red
Scotch Bonnet Big Sun
Tepin
Red Savina
Lemon Hab
Chocolate hab
White Hab
Yellow Hab
Peach Hab

There's quite a few more I want to grow too which I'll start in the New Year. When I start them as seedlings I ignore the fact that I might be limited for space (problem with my dog Murphy eating plants) but I won't get rid of any, where there's a will there's a way ;)

POTAWIE
12-19-2007, 12:14 PM
Hey rainbowberry, what is the Brazilian mini bonnet? I also ignore space limitations.

rainbowberry
12-19-2007, 12:25 PM
Hey rainbowberry, what is the Brazilian mini bonnet?
Potawie that's a good question because I don't know either. I was given it labelled like that. It had the name 'Bonnet' in it so I thought I'd grow it, just kind of thinking with 'Bonnet' in the description it might be hot.

cheezydemon
12-19-2007, 12:41 PM
You have to have a balance. I love habaneros, but paprikas are my go to seasoning.

Red Savina
Orange Hab
Vietnamese mini
Red Pumpkin Paprikas
Traditional Paprikas
Jim's sweet
Jalapeno
Jalapeno
Jalapeno(can't get enough, my smoked red jalapeno powder is worth 10x it's weight in gold)
Alma Paprika

[ SPACE RESERVED until I see what my local greenhouse has in heirloom peppers this year, they always have some cool ones]

All in all I will have 30 plants. Up 3 from last year.

LUCKYDOG
12-19-2007, 12:52 PM
My wife is gonna kill me

Orange Habs
Siams
Piquins
Datil
Yellow Fatelli
Bih Jolokia
Naga Morich
Purple Tiger
Black Manaqulana
Scoth Bonnets
Mystery Thai from Bent

Still Waiting to hear about Devils tongue and 7pot/pod or any others I can score -- I think Bentalphanerd has something for me ?? I'll update this if I remember any others I have

Omri
12-19-2007, 12:55 PM
Mine is basically all kinds of bell peppers, naga morich, trinidad peppers, seasoning peppers and some other interesting species.

cheezydemon
12-19-2007, 01:04 PM
OK Omri, I like you and all, but that is pretty damn vague! (lol, we pepper heads want specifics!!!)

Omri
12-19-2007, 01:25 PM
OK Omri, I like you and all, but that is pretty damn vague! (lol, we pepper heads want specifics!!!)
Sorry. :lol:

Bells:
Yellow Naharia
Mini Bell
Honey Kiss
Cherry

Real Hot Pepper:
Naga Morich
Trinidad Scorpion
7-Pot
Weird bird pepper from Sudan that I don't know

Less Hot Peppers:
Congo Habanero
Orange Habanero
African Birdseye
Sha Te

Even Less Hot Peppers:
Purple Jalapeņo
Red Sultan

Seasoning:
Kashmiri
Tobago Seasoning
Trinidad Seasoning

Weird Peppers:
Canuk Pepperhead's cat attracting bird pepper
Bent's "Birdhab"
Trinidad Morouga Red
Trinidad "Coffee" pepper

That's NOT my final list, just the seeds I already have.

AlabamaJack
12-19-2007, 01:58 PM
LD, you think YOUR wife is gonna be mad. There will be over 150 5 gallon containers in our back yard in 2008. If the name appears twice, it is from two different suppliers.

Aji Amarillo
Aji Limo
Anaheim
Ancho 101
Bhut Jolokia
Big Chili
Big Jim
Bird
Cayenne, Carolina
Cayenne, Mesilla
Chili Ancho Poblano
Devil Tongue
Dorset Naga
Early Jalapeno
Fatalii
Habanero, Caribbean
Habanero, Orange
Habanero, Red Savina
Habanero, Red Savina
Habanero, Yellow
Haitian Hot
Habanero, Chocolate
Hot Banana
Hot Caribbean
Hot Super Chili
Hot Tepin
Indian PC-1
Inferno Hot Banana
Jamaican Hot
Jamaican Hot Chocolate
Jamaican Hot Red
Jamaican Hot Yellow
Large Red Cherry Hot
Large Red Thick Cayenne
Largo Purple
Lemon Drop
Little Elf
Long Red Slim Cayenne
Marbles
Naga Morich
NuMex Bailey Piquin
NuMex Pinata
NuMex Sandia
NuMex Twilight
Paprika
Pasillo Bajio
Peter Pepper
Poblano
Pretty Purple
Ring of Fire
Scotch Bonnet
Serrano
Super Cayenne II Hybrid
Super Chili
Sweet Pimento
Tabasco
Tepin
Thai Orange
Thai Sun Pepper
Thia Red
Trinidad Scorpion
Yatsafusa

POTAWIE
12-19-2007, 02:35 PM
Anybody growing any large jalapenos?;)

cheezydemon
12-19-2007, 03:02 PM
Hey AJACK, why do you grow in containers if they will be in the back yard anyways? Just curious!

AlabamaJack
12-19-2007, 04:07 PM
Hey AJACK, why do you grow in containers if they will be in the back yard anyways? Just curious!

Reason 1: Wife won't let me dig up the back yard for a garden. Back yard is fairly small. Reason 2: I use a lawn service that puts down fertilize and weed killer and I am sure the soil would be poison to the plants. Reason 3: If reason 2 is not valid, see reason 1.:(

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 04:52 PM
Canuk Pepperhead's cat attracting bird pepper..lol too funny
my list..so far
My cat attracting bird pepper hehehe
Bent's birdhab
Bent's mystery asian
Bent's Siam
And another one from bent I smudged the name off of lol
cherry bombs Flat of 13 2.something
Pepp3rFreak's naga morich
QuebecFire's Tobasco
hungarian waxed flat of 13-2.something
jalipinos flat of 13 2.99
a tonne of my carrabian reds I get those a flat of 13 for 2.99
Crimson hots flat of 13...blah blah blah lol
Im going to be bugging a certian user that lives close to me soon for some other varietys like slimjims etc..(I wont say any names Potawie)lol
The 7 pod and trinidad scorpion sound interesting..maby ill find some seeds for that if not theres always next year
I keep going like this my cousin's back yard is going to become a garden lol
I will be growing veggies too this year just not shure what yet

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 05:25 PM
Anybody growing any large jalapenos?;)
This may be a stupid question but how much larger are they than a normal jap

Omri
12-19-2007, 05:41 PM
Brent's birdhab
Brent's mystery asian
Brent's Siam
And another one from brent I smudged the name off of lol
By the name of the peppers, I guess you mean 'bentalphanerd' - also known as 'Bent', not 'Brent'. :rolleyes:
The guy sent you lots of seeds, at least get the name right. :lol:

POTAWIE
12-19-2007, 07:08 PM
This may be a stupid question but how much larger are they than a normal jap
Not a variety, just any large sized jalapenos. Just preparing for the Jalapeno invitational challenge.

POTAWIE
12-19-2007, 07:13 PM
Im going to be bugging a certian user that lives close to me soon for some other varietys like slimjims etc..(I wont say any names Potawie)lol


I don't know what slim jims are except for stealing cars or cheap pepperoni but send me a PM letting me know what you're looking for and I'd be happy to help.:)

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Lol I meant big jim peppers lol Guess that shows im still learning lol

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 08:28 PM
Not a variety, just any large sized jalapenos. Just preparing for the Jalapeno invitational challenge.

I did get a few oddly big japs this year and they were good lol

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 08:29 PM
By the name of the peppers, I guess you mean 'bentalphanerd' - also known as 'Bent', not 'Brent'. :rolleyes:
The guy sent you lots of seeds, at least get the name right. :lol:
My appologies on that...I meant Bent and now edited

bjs2006
12-19-2007, 09:13 PM
Already started

Naga Morich
Purira
Orange Rocoto
Thai Dragon

Waiting to start or waiting for seed

Trinidad Scorpion
Mayan Love
Datil
Chimayo
San Felipe
Cochiti
Golden Greek Pepperoncini
Italian Pepperoncini

and last but not least for the chilemans competition
(secret weapon) Jalapeno

I may add a few other varieties but those are definite.

bentalphanerd
12-19-2007, 09:28 PM
My appologies on that...I meant Bent and now edited

Too late...I already posted you the box of Funnel-Web spiders :lol:

Omri
12-19-2007, 09:34 PM
Apparently I need some kind of giant Jalapeños as well for thechileman contest.

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 09:42 PM
Too late...I already posted you the box of Funnel-Web spiders :lol:
lol

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 09:45 PM
Apparently I need some kind of giant Jalapeños as well for thechileman contest.And I honestly dont detect any sarcasam in that post lol

Omri
12-19-2007, 09:48 PM
And I honestly dont detect any sarcasam in that post lol
Nice shirt ya got there on that avatar of yours. :whistle:

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:01 PM
Thats my last wing off shirt I won
why else would I use it as an avatar lol

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:05 PM
relax man its just in fun

Omri
12-19-2007, 10:09 PM
Two comments, and I still have no idea what that shirt means.
Is that a little mushroom cloud?

Anyways, now seriously.
What kind of Jalapeņo is the longest? grande?
I'm looking for something freakishly long, so I could win. :whistle:

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:14 PM
the mushroom cloud means a nuclear blast and the lettering says I survived the nuclear blast at de ja vue's

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:20 PM
potawie got me on that What kind of Jalapeño is the longest? grande?
I'm looking for something freakishly long, so I could win. its how its grown

bentalphanerd
12-19-2007, 10:21 PM
grande are pretty damn big. I scored one from the supermarket few months ago.. out of 30 seeds I only got one to sprout.

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:22 PM
meaning somone that grows a monster jap from lol a normal plant

Omri
12-19-2007, 10:27 PM
Grande it is then.

BTW Canuk Pepperhead (http://www.thehotpepper.com/member.php?u=1624), all because of some hot sauce? Psh... Nobody beats me when it comes to food. You can put cyanide for all I care, if it's on a plate, I'll eat it all.

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:34 PM
Grande it is then.

BTW Canuk Pepperhead (http://www.thehotpepper.com/member.php?u=1624), all because of some hot sauce? Psh... Nobody beats me when it comes to food. You can put cyanide for all I care, if it's on a plate, I'll eat it all.
ok where did this come from???I never said I could out hot anyone else...All that was asked was what the shirt meant...Guessing im changing avtars

Omri
12-19-2007, 10:36 PM
ok where did this come from???I never said I could out hot anyone else...All that was asked was what the shirt meant...Guessing im changing avtars
It's called humor.
Sorry man, didn't mean to sound too serious.

That's a cool shirt, keep that avatar on. :rolleyes:

EDIT:
Damn, why did you change it for? now you made me feel bad. :(

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:38 PM
lol ah well ya get to see my dog lol

Omri
12-19-2007, 10:39 PM
That's a cute dog and all, but now I feel like some kind of a-hole.

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:47 PM
lol Ive lost that other pic..I hate having a multi partitioned 500 gig hd

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:54 PM
ok fixed it

Omri
12-19-2007, 10:55 PM
lol Ive lost that other pic..I hate having a multi partitioned 500 gig hd
http://www.thehotpepper.com/customavatars/avatar1624_6.gif

:lol:

EDIT:
NVM

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 10:56 PM
lol

Omri
12-19-2007, 10:58 PM
lol
You uploaded a new one, but I got you the original one!
Look at the name of the picture. :cool: :lol:

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 11:04 PM
thought I had only one pic of that

Canuk Pepperhead
12-19-2007, 11:10 PM
lets leave the rest of this conversatoin for another thread...lol this is supposed to be about the next years line up with seeds....

chilehunter
12-19-2007, 11:48 PM
And I honestly dont detect any sarcasam in that post lol

well since you 2 already hijacked the thread :lol:


I kinda understand what CP is talking about. Omri, I dont know if its because of cultural difference or what ? but it seems like you throw this :rolleyes: out there often & on many occasions in the wrong spot(IMO), which can give off the impression of sarcasam.

chilehunter
12-19-2007, 11:53 PM
the mushroom cloud means a nuclear blast and the lettering says I survived the nuclear blast at de ja vue's


I see you picked a good place to eat wings at :lol:
didnt know they expanded up into the frozen tundra. we have a Deja Vu here also but this one is a " gentlemans club" ;) which they also get into the holiday giving spirit, they do a " Toys for Ta Ta's" drive :lol: with a local radio station.

POTAWIE
12-20-2007, 07:01 AM
potawie got me on that What kind of Jalapeņo is the longest? grande?
I'm looking for something freakishly long, so I could win. its how its grown

If anyone knows where to get Jalapeno gigantia let me know. Its the largest Jal that I've herad of but hard to find.

Omri
12-20-2007, 07:20 AM
well since you 2 already hijacked the thread :lol:


I kinda understand what CP is talking about. Omri, I dont know if its because of cultural difference or what ? but it seems like you throw this :rolleyes: out there often & on many occasions in the wrong spot(IMO), which can give off the impression of sarcasam.
OK, understood. (no more ':rolleyes:' for me)

If anyone knows where to get Jalapeno gigantia let me know. Its the largest Jal that I've herad of but hard to find.
Now that's the one I want!

bentalphanerd
12-20-2007, 10:31 AM
So how big does a gigantia get? I have no idea what I got from the supermarket here (that i'm now growing) The plebs here named it 'Jalapeno Large'. It must have been 6" long & about 3 or 4" across. A monster. Had about 50 seeds in it too...I still have about 20.

POTAWIE
12-20-2007, 11:08 AM
The Gigantia is from "Seeds by design" and they describe it as 5 inches long where most others are described as 3-4 inches. I'll be looking for some big ones at the supermarket too although they are never ripe.

http://www.seedsbydesign.com/pl_pepperhot.shtml

Omri
12-20-2007, 12:36 PM
The Gigantia is from "Seeds by design" and they describe it as 5 inches long where most others are described as 3-4 inches. I'll be looking for some big ones at the supermarket too although they are never ripe.

http://www.seedsbydesign.com/pl_pepperhot.shtml
5" is a massive Jalapeņo. :shocked:
Forget about the Grande, I want those!
*searching for seeds*

thehotpepper.com
12-20-2007, 12:40 PM
Thread moved.

Omri
12-20-2007, 12:43 PM
Thread moved.
What about you? Are you growing any peppers this year?

chilehunter
12-22-2007, 04:48 PM
omri - dont quit using the :rolleyes: maybe its just a misunderstanding how you use it ?


to others - well I went grocery shopping today & saw some monster jalapenos. remembering you all were talking about them so I bought some :lol: I never seen jalapenos that big before 4" long 1.25"-1.5" wide they might not be your "gigantia jalapeno" but these werent the normal size jalapenos they stocked before (which are much smaller)

Omri
12-22-2007, 05:05 PM
omri - dont quit using the :rolleyes: maybe its just a misunderstanding how you use it ?


to others - well I went grocery shopping today & saw some monster jalapenos. remembering you all were talking about them so I bought some :lol: I never seen jalapenos that big before 4" long 1.25"-1.5" wide they might not be your "gigantia jalapeno" but these werent the normal size jalapenos they stocked before (which are much smaller)
It has a certain meaning around here, so I should just stop using it.

Now about those peppers, can we see pics? :lol:

chilehunter
12-22-2007, 05:37 PM
do you really want to see pics of them ? they're just a bigger jalapeno & green. it was more of a impulse buy because they looked cool, never seen them that big before. also not a big fan of jalapenos (over rated IMO) but they looked cool :lol:

Omri
12-22-2007, 06:08 PM
do you really want to see pics of them ? they're just a bigger jalapeno & green. it was more of a impulse buy because they looked cool, never seen them that big before. also not a big fan of jalapenos (over rated IMO) but they looked cool :lol:
I really like Jalapeños, so it's ok. ;)
Also you just said:
they looked cool
Twice! so show some pics.

chilehunter
12-22-2007, 07:21 PM
I had a feeling you'd say that, so here you go to satisfy your jalapeno fix :lol: I bet theres bigger jalapenos than these but for me those were the biggest I've seen.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/confusionfusion8/DSCF1004.jpg

Canuk Pepperhead
12-22-2007, 07:36 PM
Hmmm I did have some japs get that size in last years garden....I got my flats from marlons orchards(near cornwall ont)

Omri
12-22-2007, 07:42 PM
I had a feeling you'd say that, so here you go to satisfy your jalapeno fix :lol: I bet theres bigger jalapenos than these but for me those were the biggest I've seen.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/confusionfusion8/DSCF1004.jpg
They're just really big, not fat or thin... weird. :shocked:
Nice. :cool:

Canuk Pepperhead
12-27-2007, 01:09 PM
Hey potawie is this something like what you are looking for??
http://fatalii.net/chile/?u=g&c=search&word=concho&id=5504

Pam
12-28-2007, 10:17 PM
Potawie! Yo!

http://www.burpee.com/product/new+for+2008/hot+pepper+jalape%26ntilde-o+gigante+-+packet+%2830+seeds%29.do

I was doing a little catalog fondling this morning, and voila! I squealed and tried to make it to the computer then; but was cruelly sidetracked.

However, I was refondling just now and deja voila!

This also drew my eye. I wonder what it really is?

http://www.burpee.com/product/vegetables/pepper%2C+hot/hot+pepper+zavory+-+1+order+%283+plants%29.do

Pam
12-28-2007, 10:24 PM
Ok, wait, hold up!

You mean I just gave all you slobs a heaping helping toward winning the chileman.org 2008 growing contest?

Gack...it's just so hard to be a blonde sometimes!

POTAWIE
12-29-2007, 08:31 AM
Thanks Pam but the secret's been out already its been discussed on chillisgalore forum and like I said there,"What a poor discription. It doesn't say anything about heat or if its a hybrid or #of days to maturity. I'm tempted but I'd rather give my business to someone who puts more effort into their presentation. Also since its a burpee's exclusive it's likely not be the same as Gigantia."

POTAWIE
12-29-2007, 08:37 AM
That "Hot Pepper Zavory" looks intersting but them saying "The first ever Habanero with mild heat" is definitely false advertising. At least they added a decent description to this one, but its $11.50 a plant and they Don't ship here anyways.

Pam
12-29-2007, 09:42 AM
That "Hot Pepper Zavory" looks intersting but them saying "The first ever Habanero with mild heat" is definitely false advertising. At least they added a decent description to this one, but its $11.50 a plant and they Don't ship here anyways.

I thought the picture looked like a Trinidad Seasoning, and my first thought was that that they just renamed it. It's such an irritating practice, but so many commercial nurseries do it. When you're reading the history of so many heirlooms, you see where the name was often changed by a commercial nursery.


Thanks Pam but the secret's been out already its been discussed on chillisgalore forum and like I said there,"What a poor discription. It doesn't say anything about heat or if its a hybrid or #of days to maturity. I'm tempted but I'd rather give my business to someone who puts more effort into their presentation. Also since its a burpee's exclusive it's likely not be the same as Gigantia."

I don't really like Burpee, and that is pretty typical of them. However, when I saw it I thought it was what you were looking for; sorry!

They have a couple of interesting looking basils, but one they're only selling as a plant, and I'm suspicious of the information they give. At the prices they charge I would want to save seed, but I don't know if I would be able to or not. I'll probably put my money in some interesting lettuce varieties that Southern Exposure Seed Exchange has.

habman
12-29-2007, 11:08 AM
I'm not too happy with the choice of pepper for the 2008 chileman.org growing competition this year.
They are just too many hybrid jalapeno out there.
I think most people will be growing hybrids (crosses) of jalapeno and in my book any hybrid is not a real jalapeno.
So how will chileman control what people are growing?

POTAWIE
12-29-2007, 12:07 PM
I think its a great contest hybrids or not. Its all for fun and something everyone can get involved in. If I get a huge monster Jal from a hybrid, I may still save seeds and try to eventually de-hybridize it but it would be nice if the winner isn't a hybrid.

cmpman1974
12-30-2007, 05:48 PM
Were the pods red ripe? If so, I'd like to get some seeds if you saved a bunch. :) Maybe we can trade for something?

Chris


omri - dont quit using the :rolleyes: maybe its just a misunderstanding how you use it ?


to others - well I went grocery shopping today & saw some monster jalapenos. remembering you all were talking about them so I bought some :lol: I never seen jalapenos that big before 4" long 1.25"-1.5" wide they might not be your "gigantia jalapeno" but these werent the normal size jalapenos they stocked before (which are much smaller)

Omri
12-30-2007, 06:32 PM
Were the pods red ripe? If so, I'd like to get some seeds if you saved a bunch. :) Maybe we can trade for something?

Chris
He posted a picture:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/confusionfusion8/DSCF1004.jpg

They don't look ripe to me. :lol:

stillmanz
12-30-2007, 08:10 PM
Omri Tobago Seasoning and Trinidad Seasoning should be exactly the same pepper. grow them out and tellme if its true. An excellent seasoning pepper I have been growing for a while is the St Martins, which is similiar again.

Omri
12-30-2007, 08:14 PM
Omri Tobago Seasoning and Trinidad Seasoning should be exactly the same pepper. grow them out and tellme if its true. An excellent seasoning pepper I have been growing for a while is the St Martins, which is similiar again.
I heard the same thing, but someone around here said it's not (I think it was Pam).

stillmanz
12-30-2007, 08:16 PM
Incidendtly this year I got growing
st martins
trinidad seasoning
trinidad congo
scotch bonnet
jamaican red hot
trinidad scorpion
prik kee nu
orange habanero
tepin
broome
fatalii
devils tongue/fatalii orange
naga morriach
probably a few I can't thinkof

stillmanz
12-30-2007, 08:17 PM
I guess we will have to wait and see Omri

Omri
12-30-2007, 08:19 PM
Devil's Tongue is an orange Fatalii? :lol:
BTW how are those "Broome" peppers? the picture at 'thechileman.org' is weird.

chilehunter
12-30-2007, 08:46 PM
Were the pods red ripe? If so, I'd like to get some seeds if you saved a bunch. :) Maybe we can trade for something?

Chris


omri already took care of this question - not ripe. & why would you want or trade for seeds pulled from store bought chiles ?

omri - this is where a good ":rolleyes:" would be suited. " Do they look ripe to you ? :rolleyes: " :lol:

stillmanz
12-30-2007, 08:49 PM
like this...

yes Omri devils tongue/ orange fatalii same and the one:rolleyes:


the broom are funny I get flowers no fruit yet the plant has been snappedin half and treated fairly poorly but its comming back.

billyboy
12-30-2007, 08:56 PM
Hey Stilly! I see youve got Scotch Bonnets on your list. Ive just had my first harvest of Scotch Bonnets, I was pretty disappointed with them, not much heat & they smell like a coalminers armpit :shocked:

Omri
12-30-2007, 09:08 PM
like this...

yes Omri devils tongue/ orange fatalii same and the one:rolleyes:


the broom are funny I get flowers no fruit yet the plant has been snappedin half and treated fairly poorly but its comming back.
Maybe it's just me acting like an idiot, but from what I've seen (pictures only) Devil's Tongue peppers don't look like a Fatalii (Fatalii-like? sure, but not the same), and they're yellow. :lol:

Good luck with the Broome. when you get the first pods, I'd like to have a little "review". ;)

Pam
12-30-2007, 09:13 PM
I've grown Devil's Tongue and Fatalii, and they were not the same pepper. I got my Devil's Tongue from http://www.chileplants.com, but I've had Fatalii's from several sources.

I have also grown Trinidad Seasoning and Tobago Seasoning, both from chileplants.com, and they are two different peppers. The Tobago Seasoning was more wrinkled.

Omri
12-30-2007, 09:16 PM
I've grown Devil's Tongue and Fatalii, and they were not the same pepper. I got my Devil's Tongue from http://www.chileplants.com, but I've had Fatalii's from several sources.

I have also grown Trinidad Seasoning and Tobago Seasoning, both from chileplants.com, and they are two different peppers. The Tobago Seasoning was more wrinkled.
From now on, you're my source of information. :cool:

Yep, I does say a lot about you. :lol:

stillmanz
12-30-2007, 10:08 PM
I didn't say they were the same I'm saying devils tongue are orange fatalii. the only difference between fatalii (true) and devils tongue or orange fatalii is the fact devils tongue are more orange. plant structure seed count flavour and heat are the same
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/stillmanz/DSCN2279.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/stillmanz/DSCN2281.jpg

These are pics of my devils tongue notice the colour difference from fatalii also if you leave them longer on the plant they are even more orange.

Pam sowhat I was saying is I believe the devils tongue is a colour variant within the fatalii type.
Omri you are a truely frustrating human being, don't take that too personally I like to challenge myself and I don'tmind explaining myself lol.

ps I still think tobago and trinidad seasoning are the same lol

Omri
12-30-2007, 10:35 PM
Well how am I supposed to know anything, if I'm too afraid to ask? :)

stillmanz
12-30-2007, 10:55 PM
by all mean ask, I'm only messin round man.
I call devils tongue orange fatalii it stirs people up which is not my intention... I've had the same discussion with people all over the world on various forums the general consesus is that I am wrong.... and I probably am, very little is known about either fatalii or devils tongue.

I got my seeds from a customer who came in our cafe they got the pods from an indian family that had brought it back from overseas, they had lived in the west indies, trinidad believe it or no, but I think the seeds were from india before that I don't know.(the family had grown them for years and used the pods in fish dishes exclusively)
they had a name in there native language that translated to devils tongue
I got the seeds grew them out and couldn't believe how much similarity there were to them and fatalii, some pods at certain stages of ripeness were basically identicle. Both plants were lrg both produced ubuntently, devils tongue were occasionally slightly broader and a little heavier in the pod. cooking wise there was no discernable diference what so ever... at the endofthe day one was yellow and one went more orange.

Either way Fatalii and devils tongue (orange fatalii) are two very similiar great types of chilli both my equal favourite, both underated super hots.

Omri
12-30-2007, 10:59 PM
And here I thought Orange Habanero is your one true favorite. :P

stillmanz
12-30-2007, 11:08 PM
Orange habanero for my hot sauce, Fatalii and devils tongue for all the ways I don't know how to use them, yet.

Pam
12-30-2007, 11:37 PM
I call devils tongue orange fatalii it stirs people up which is not my intention...

Reference the discussion of a few days ago about there being enough confusion in pepper nomenclature.



I got the seeds grew them out and couldn't believe how much similarity there were to them and fatalii, some pods at certain stages of ripeness were basically identicle.

And if I threw a handful of Grenada Seasoning peppers in the mix, you'd have even more trouble telling which was which. Generally they're shorter and broader, but some look exactly like Fatalii or Devil's Tongue peppers. That's the thing about Clan Chinense, and most of the other species, come to think of it; there are so many varieties that are very, very similar, and probably closely related.

I don't know what your seed source on the Trinidad Seasoning and Tobago Seasoning peppers is, but I can assure you that the plants I got from chileplants.com are two separate, albeit similar, varieties.

POTAWIE
12-31-2007, 07:25 AM
I agree that the Fatalii and devil's tongue are slightly different in color but that's about the only difference I've noticed. Same heat and flavor but for me the Fatalii was possibly a little more productive.

stillmanz
12-31-2007, 09:04 AM
yeah yeah ...science win but I love a witch hunt.

I conceed defeat Pam. But If in time I a proven right I will be weilding a very large axe lol Have a good new year all.

Pam
12-31-2007, 05:57 PM
For Stillman: Trinidad Seasoning on the left, Tobago Seasoning on the right.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/Peppergeek/TSTS4098.jpg

stillmanz
12-31-2007, 08:10 PM
They certainly look different. I have both types but both of mine look more like the tobago but not wrinkly so maybe thats what I got. I got my seeds from John F.

cmpman1974
12-31-2007, 10:28 PM
Pam, where did you get seeds for that Trinidad Seasoning pepper on the left? I'd like to grow it. It is different than others I have tried. I like the shape of the pods. :lol:

Chris


For Stillman: Trinidad Seasoning on the left, Tobago Seasoning on the right.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/Peppergeek/TSTS4098.jpg

Pam
12-31-2007, 10:41 PM
I got both as plants from chileplants.com .

I haven't isolated any pods for seed from that plant, but I can if you want seed. And if it survives the winter in the hoop house. It's not liking the cool temperatures.

If it doesn't survive, I will be ordering another plant, so I can send you some seeds this summer if all else fails.