Bird/Habs - seeds nearly ready, Who wants?

[bentalphanerd]

I've been playing with a cross between a Malawi Birdseye & Yellow Hab over the last year {bird/hab}. I'm up to 3rd generation adding more Hab each time.

It puts out very small violently hot pods. Very few flowers, even fewer pods, then they take 6 odd weeks to turn red & another 3 weeks after that on the plant to get the full heat. Best plant I have has reached all of 3" high & 5" across.

Would make a good winter indoor pet, I should have about 30 to 50 seeds available in the next month. Anyone looking for a small violent pet with growth issues ?

[habman]

Best plant I have has reached all of 3" high & 5" across.

Would make a good winter indoor pet, I should have about 30 to 50 seeds available in the next month. Anyone looking for a small violent pet with growth issues ?

Hey bent,
It would be great to have a picture of the hybrid and of the parents also.
These would be great for my indoor garden.
Sounds very interesting I'll send you a PM later.
:onfire:

[bentalphanerd]

The early ones were coming out all sorts of shapes & sizes:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/122/image004crpvd7.th.jpg....... (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image004crpvd7.jpg)http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7446/image003crpoj0.th.jpg...... (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image003crpoj0.jpg)http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1949/image002crptw3.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image002crptw3.jpg)

The latest are getting a more uniformed 'squared' shape.

Still want more Hab in them though :onfire:

[bentalphanerd]

Just opened the first ripe one & wow, 10 whole seeds lol (3 to 5 is the norm)
I'll dry them off a bit and send 5 a piece to Omri & QuebecFire next week.

[Omri]

Yay! I'll be making an army of those. :hell:
Thanks, and be sure I'll call them "Bent's Birdhabs". :lol:

[LUCKYDOG]

Just opened the first ripe one & wow, 10 whole seeds lol (3 to 5 is the norm)
I'll dry them off a bit and send 5 a piece to Omri & QuebecFire next week.

Ahem.... trade ya some infamous Passow Piquins

[bentalphanerd]

I'll add you to the list LUCKYDOG

I've been wondering what those Piquins would be like in a 12 month growing season.

[bentalphanerd]

Cards are on their way Omri & QuebecFire, let me know when they arrive.
Another 2 pods half ripe, should be sending the others next week.

[Omri]

Yay, thanks. :)

[LUCKYDOG]

I'll add you to the list LUCKYDOG

I've been wondering what those Piquins would be like in a 12 month growing season.

I'll send some when I get your addy :cool:

[Omri]

OMFG just got the seeds! :D
Like the way you put the seeds inside a little bag, then a card and only then the envelope. :P

[QuebecFire]

wow ...I dont got mine !! autralia - canada must be very long mail time ....

[Omri]

I'm only half way, Israel is awesome. :P

[bentalphanerd]

Great Omri - let me know how they grow.

I was wondering which would arrive first, looked to be equal distance in opposite directions. Should be any day now QuebecFire.

[bentalphanerd]

Next pod is ripe - 10 seeds again (I'm such a nerd even my plants are in decimal :lol:)
habman & Canuk Pepperhead are next on the list. I'll post on Monday when they've dried a little.

[Canuk Pepperhead]

Cooool thx...Im looking forward to it

[QuebecFire]

YAHH MANNN !!! just recieve my beannsss !! thanks bro !!:hell:
...Nice stamp ;)

[bentalphanerd]

YAHH MANNN !!! just recieve my beannsss !! thanks bro !!:hell:
...Nice stamp ;)

Thats good, I was beginning to wonder how far away you were.

I have more to send tomorrow.

[bentalphanerd]

habman, Canuk Pepperhead, Slinter, they're on their way.

Dethwind...not long now

LUCKYDOG - I'm waiting for those extra asian seeds you wanted & then send all together.

Enjoy

[chilliman64]

I recommend that you get some of these seeds - they grow a hot tasty pepper!

[LUCKYDOG]

Perfect Bent --- it'll be a nice christmas addition

[bentalphanerd]

Any babies yet? :D

[chilliman64]

hey bent, I picked three fat little pods of the birdhab you gave me at Byron - they're a chocolatey-browny-reddy colour. I can't wait to eat them!!!

[bentalphanerd]

they will turn a bright red in time...about 3 weeks after that they hit their peak heat. It is an evil little plant that makes you wait & wait & wait....
It has issues.

[chilliman64]

they're currently sitting in a bowl in the kitchen where they will stay until they turn red, or else!

btw, I'm making some more jerky this weekend. I'm trying a thicker cut of meat but the same basic recipe for now. if it works ok I'll send you some. if it works out really well I'm gonna eat it all myself ;)

[Omri]

What about some pictures? you can't talk about how peppers look without showing some p3Pp3R p0Rn.

[bentalphanerd]

What about some pictures? you can't talk about how peppers look without showing some p3Pp3R p0Rn.

They are truly pathetic to look at Omri. I have a plant in the ground for a year & still only 3" high. Do your nerd best with it, there must be a way to produce these tasty pods better.

[Omri]

I'm thinking of crossing it with a Naga. :P

[bentalphanerd]

Its a little hussy - i think it will jump anything you put in front of it.

[Omri]

What about some Trinidad Scorpion? it'll give it the nice firm look.

[bentalphanerd]

I'm thinking if you can cross it to produce more pods faster would be a better angle, but go the way that feels good to for you. They your plants now. :)

[Omri]

But I'm asking for your advice.
So what would you say about Pequin? or maybe large Congo Habanero, it is supposed to be VERY productive and it will probably give it bigger pods and overall size.

[bentalphanerd]

But I'm asking for your advice.
So what would you say about Pequin? or maybe large Congo Habanero, it is supposed to be VERY productive and it will probably give it bigger pods and overall size.

Hmmm pequin/congo/bird/hab .... :evil scientist laugh:

[chilliman64]

I still think that a Big Jim x Long Choc Hab x Peter Pepper would be the ultimate pepper. I'm too lazy to give it a go but I'm happy to shout instructions from the sidelines if someone else wants to...

chilliman64 aka the laziest man in the world

[habman]

Just got my seeds today! Woohoo!
I will plant them tomorrow.

Just one question Bent, why did you go to all this trouble in packaging the seeds the way you did? Are the Australian postal dudes paranoid?

[bentalphanerd]

Just got my seeds today! Woohoo!
I will plant them tomorrow.

Just one question Bent, why did you go to all this trouble in packaging the seeds the way you did? Are the Australian postal dudes paranoid?

glad they got there o.k

it is hard to import stuff into Australia. I've found the birthday card works well for seeds everywhere. Easy & cheap to do too :cool:

Enjoy them.

[chilliman64]

Australia Post & AQIS = Fascist Bully Boys & Secret Police

[bentalphanerd]

True...& happy to steal absolutely everything they can get their greedy little hands on.

[chilliman64]

yep! I had 2 ounces of fatalii powder go missing and I blame those pricks! can I say pricks here???

they're pricks!

[Canuk Pepperhead]

bentalphanerd I just got them!!!thx alot and I liked the card

[Omri]

I'm not sure how to say it, but your 'birdhabs' are scaring me. They grow all weird and uneven. :shocked:
Just so you won't blame it on the "half leaf falling off" thing, that's the one that was intact. :lol:

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/896/birdhabah8.jpg
One leaf is long, one is short. one goes this way, the other goes that way, and you know what? they don't even grow in pairs, it's like one leaf at a time.

To be honest, that just makes want to taste the pods even more. :cool:

[bentalphanerd]

hahaha - i tried to tell you. Even the best ones I have are scraggly & pathetic. sometimes some pods grow upwards too although the 3rd generation seems to be more stable that way.

[Omri]

Reporting progress :cool::
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1548/52290577zv2.jpg

The same one as in the picture I posted before.

[bentalphanerd]

Omri...i hope I sent you the right seed :shocked:

that looks way too healthy. Big leaves too.

[Omri]

Omri...i hope I sent you the right seed :shocked:

that looks way too healthy. Big leaves too.
Damn me and my awesome way of growing plants... they look too healthy! :lol:
Maybe you didn't send the right seeds, but that's definitely the seeds you sent me.

[bentalphanerd]

Time will tell if you are so good, or I am that bad :P

[billyboy]

Omri, the pods from this plant are really tasty! Bent sent me one in a trade a while back, Ive yet to grow the seed but the pod was yummy thats for sure, it looks like youve got them under control in the growing department:)

[Omri]

The sad thing is that the plants are four days already without any light, because the damn light bulb stopped working.
They survived thanks to almost none-existent sunlight.

So if my plant looks too healthy, you're doing something seriously wrong. :lol:

BTW go take a look at the 'last spicy meal' thread. :)

[billyboy]

The sad thing is that the plants are four days already without any light, because the damn light bulb stopped working.
They survived thanks to almost none-existent sunlight.

So if my plant looks too healthy, you're doing something seriously wrong.

Mate! Its Australian made, it will survive all that you throw at it!:cool:

[Omri]

Mate! Its Australian made, it will survive all that you throw at it!:cool:
Of course. ;)

[bentalphanerd]

O.k the asian mystery seeds are in....who have i missed? I've got Luckydog, Dethwind, PcolaHot on my list.

Omri, sorry to say that plant you showed looks a lot like a Siam, I'm thinking something got through the teabag. How many did you get sprout & do they all look the same?

[Omri]

O.k the asian mystery seeds are in....who have i missed? I've got Luckydog, Dethwind, PcolaHot on my list.

Omri, sorry to say that plant you showed looks a lot like a Siam, I'm thinking something got through the teabag. How many did you get sprout & do they all look the same?
All the same. :shocked:

[AlabamaJack]

O.k the asian mystery seeds are in....who have i missed? I've got Luckydog, Dethwind, PcolaHot on my list.

Omri, sorry to say that plant you showed looks a lot like a Siam, I'm thinking something got through the teabag. How many did you get sprout & do they all look the same?

Please add AlabamaJack to your list Bent.....I will send you some anaheim seeds I got out of the grocery yesterday if you like. This anaheim pepper weighed in at .89 pounds and was 12 inches long....see my post under the meal section for stuffed peppers...has a pic there of it. PMing you mailing address.

[bentalphanerd]

hey everyone. Its looking like the 3rd gen have crossed with Siam making them a stronger more viable plant. i was hoping for a 3rd Hab cross but am happy the plant looks more stable.
If any have sprouted for you please post some pics here. I'd like to see how they're working out.
Thanks

[Omri]

They're growing insanely fast.
Just two days ago the biggest one had just a few leaves, now it has 13 sets of leaves. :shocked:
I won't be surprised if that number will double itself in a couple of days. :shocked:

You made one heck of a plant there Bent, good job. ;)

[bentalphanerd]

The proof of good pepper plant or unworthy only comes with a nice fresh red ripe pod...and the devouring of it.
A good plant, yes Im happy it made that cross even if it was accidental. A good pepper who knows. Can always drop back to Generation 2 seeds & try again, but I think it'll work out fine.

would like to see the others though & see if they all got that Siam in them. Easy way to tell is they get a real dark spot near where the branches join the stem. And leaves larger than 1 CM would also be unusual.

[Omri]

The proof of good pepper plant or unworthy only comes with a nice fresh red ripe pod...and the devouring of it.
A good plant, yes Im happy it made that cross even if it was accidental. A good pepper who knows. Can always drop back to Generation 2 seeds & try again, but I think it'll work out fine.

would like to see the others though & see if they all got that Siam in them. Easy way to tell is they get a real dark spot near where the branches join the stem. And leaves larger than 1 CM would also be unusual.
Yep I have dark joins, and the leaves are more than 1cm (more like 5cm).
Guess I won't have the little plants I hoped. :lol:

[bentalphanerd]

mine is flowering at 12 cm high, so they still wont be big plants. Leaves are 3 to 4 cm. Its definitely a healthier looking plant than the previous versions.

[Omri]

You see, four out of five seedlings lost their first leaf, and because of that they grew slower than the one that stayed intact.
That one is just a bit over 12cm, so I guess it'll be flowering real soon.

I think I'll just call them 'BHS' (Birdseye, Habanero, Siam). it's easier to say (and write) than 'Birdhabiam'. :lol:

[cap lover]

i have 3 hab plants and a hot lemon :P but i would really like that "birdhabiam" thing you got, the stable one. :)

[bentalphanerd]

pm me your address & I'll add you to the list.

Apologies for the slow-down in sending them out, should be back to normal here next week.

The one I have grown has a green pod on it, should ripen in the next few weeks. I'll post some pics soon.

[Chiliac]

Got any left?

Need anything in trade?

Would be killer to try these out this year. I'd be happy to cover your expenses for sending them....

[bentalphanerd]

Got any left?

Need anything in trade?

Would be killer to try these out this year. I'd be happy to cover your expenses for sending them....

PM me your address, I'll add you to the list.

[Chiliac]

Done! Thanks a million!!!

[habman]

My little "benny" is now 3 months old.
I'll post pic if you promise not laugh at him (he's very sensitive :) )
Where did I put the damn camera......

[Omri]

Any pod pics?

[bentalphanerd]

yeah - i haven't had any new ripe pods since we got all that rain, so no seeds of the birdhab.

I do have a few birdhabiam seeds now lol

[Omri]

Can you at least share the size? I mean, mine were around 15cm/6" tall. do they get a lot taller, if at all?
There's a chance you developed a new mini-plant. :D
Birdhabiam is hot?

[bentalphanerd]

>>Runs outside & grabs a pod>>

:munch munch:

Not as hot as I'd like. It'd be considered hot to some. i've got a little birdhabiam in a pot in the middle of my Hab hedge so the next cross should bring it back again.

It is a much more stable plant though...the original birdhab is still only 4 or 5" tall & it would be around a year old lol

[Omri]

Dude, you could sell these.

[bentalphanerd]

Dude, you could sell these.

right now i think that'd just lead to a lot of complaints. I'd just like to get them more stable & have more Hab flavour in there. I figure thats going to take at least 3 more generations.

[Omri]

You do what you need to do, but little tiny and mature plants would go off the shelves! a little something you can put under your kitchen window and pick chiles from whenever you cook. like Doctor Who usually say; "Brilliant!".

[bentalphanerd]

lol yeah thats why i offered them out - thought of everyone here stuck indoors all winter without fresh pods...it was an act of mercy lol.

[Omri]

If you make them hot AND tasty, than you got a winner. I'd probably give it a proper name, though. I still have my good ol' Galore idea - "Rectal Burn". :lol:

[habman]

There it is, this plant is 3 months old.
Smallest and slowest little bugger I've ever seen.

( The other next to him is about 3-4 days old but it's a seed that was planted maybe 4-5 months ago and just now decided to pop out. Don't have any clue what it is. )


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/playavince_vodka/gardenweb/birdhab/IMG_3343.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/playavince_vodka/gardenweb/birdhab/IMG_3335.jpg


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/playavince_vodka/gardenweb/birdhab/IMG_3340.jpg

[Omri]

Wow, I actually think I had flowers sooner than that. :lol:

[bentalphanerd]

My little "benny" is now 3 months old.
I'll post pic if you promise not laugh at him (he's very sensitive :) )


Yeah but :lol: :lol:

[bentalphanerd]

I just re-read my first post on this thread & yup I think I covered it.

just think habman - it can spend its whole life in that same pot.

[Omri]

I just re-read my first post on this thread & yup I think I covered it.

just think habman - it can spend its whole life in that same pot.
Magical. :lol:

[habman]

Maybe it should be call "100 year pod" pepper :)
I started fert it 2 weeks ago and it was a bit light deprived.
I love this plant... once I get attached to a plant I usually kill it.Too much love is bad thing.

[Omri]

Maybe it should be call "100 year pod" pepper :)
I started fert it 2 weeks ago and it was a bit light deprived.
I love this plant... once I get attached to a plant I usually kill it.Too much love is bad thing.
Looked for some of my pics... here's one at about one month from seed:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1548/52290577zv2.jpg
They actually grew extremely fast.

[bentalphanerd]

You can be sure any seed you get from me comes from a very low maintenance plant.

I'd have to be THP's laziest gardener

[Omri]

You can be sure any seed you get from me comes from a very low maintenance plant.

I'd have to be THP's laziest gardener
Well for you it's ok, cause you have that awesome oz weather, but besides the Trinidad people here, we can't do it.

[bentalphanerd]

Omri - yours turned out to have the Siam cross in them.

Heres one I grew at the same time as yours. It lives with the Orange Habs & is just about to open it's first flowers ;)

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/664/birdhabvers3vt6.jpg

[Omri]

I remember mine having flowers, but it was a while back and it kinda died.
Looks like a very cool plant, kinda bushy too.

Here's a question. if it has Chinense and Frutescens genes, and now some Annuum as well, will it produce seeds? usually too complicated crosses don't produce seeds. just like with POTAWIE's scorpion-bell cross.

[bentalphanerd]

The first 2 crosses only had about 3 seeds per pod. The latest one has gone up to 10. Just keeping the fingers crossed on all of that.

You'll see it has the small leaves (about 1 cm) & yet its as strong as the ones with dark joins (obviously Siam). is it possible to only get a little of the cross characteristics?

[Omri]

Do you look exactly like one of your parents and nothing like the other? :P

[bentalphanerd]

true...just wasnt sure if a single flower could get more or less polinated

[Omri]

Has to do with genetics, not method of pollination.

[bentalphanerd]

:lol: man that looks funny with your new signature underneath

[Omri]

I like my new signature. :)

[PcolaHot]

Hey Bent do you have any Bird/Hab Seeds left?

[bentalphanerd]

Hey Bent do you have any Bird/Hab Seeds left?

Theres more coming. Our wet summer hasn't been good for pod growth.

-you're already on the list.

[Sydtunes]

I wouldn't mind any if you get a bunch to spare...

[bentalphanerd]

I wouldn't mind any if you get a bunch to spare...

pm me your address Syd, I'll add you to the list.

[miscula]

add me,please

[bentalphanerd]

add me,please

PM me you're address, i'll add you to the list.

[talas]

bentalphanerd is there anything seed wise your after ill try and help,if you have any of your hybrid seeds later on in the year it will be great..you seem to have worked on getting them just right all the success for the future :)

[bentalphanerd]

bentalphanerd is there anything seed wise your after ill try and help,if you have any of your hybrid seeds later on in the year it will be great..you seem to have worked on getting them just right all the success for the future :)

pm me your address talas. The list is getting kind of long so it's going to be a while. May even be a new generation out by then.

The birdhabiam i stuck under the habs has flowered. I ripped a hab flower off & rubbed it in. Another of the birdhabiams has put out a few of the short rounded pods, so seed production should step up again soon.

I got another pod from the original cross today. I ate about 1/4 of it (after getting the seed out).

hot:onfire: & tasty :cool:

[talas]

bentalphanerd not a problem buddy youve got enough on your hands.
in the future will be fine..good bit of heat then ?

[bentalphanerd]

very nice heat. Its hard to get a read on because the pods are so small & few at the moment. But thats what i'm trying to change by frankensteining . The birdhabiam puts out more pods but probably half the heat.

This next cross should be good :Mwwhaha mwahaha ha ha:

oh right, it's just a plant :D

[ring sting]

So too were the triffids.....

[bentalphanerd]

So too were the triffids.....

Note to self: must test that they don't dissolve in seawater.

[talas]

man these are starting to sound scary :rolleyes: triffids indeed lol :lol:

[Chiliac]

Well, if there ever was "Day of the Birdhabs", I'd probably rent it!!! There so very few old style monster flicks these days....

[talas]

yep chilliac it will :CHILL: you to your bones..or
It Came Out Of The Hot Sauce :lol:

[whocares]

have some of those? Please, pretty please!
Thanks
Margarida

[Sydtunes]

me too please!!!

Here is my pepper trade list:

Habanero Big Sun (Scotch Bonnet)
Thai Hot
California Wonder
Mustard Habanero
Naga Jolokia
African Naga
Pequin

It's a small list, I know... I'm still a rookie trying to get a nice collection going. Let me know if anything interests you.
Thanks again!!!:lol:

[bentalphanerd]

have some of those? Please, pretty please!
Thanks
Margarida





me too please!!!



PM me your address I'll add you to the list.

Thanks for the seeds swap offer but I'm really out of room for growing anything new right now.

cheers
~bent

[whocares]

P.M. sent :) Thanks a lot :onfire:

[Sydtunes]

PM with addy sent. Thanks a bunch!!! :)