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Pam
08-06-2007, 07:16 PM
I spent the weekend in the Back of Nowhere, Vermont. We camped by a rustic house in a wildflower meadow where there were blueberries and raspberries for the picking. Butterflies soared around us, and we watched a hummingbird buzz among the flowers. The meadow was surrounded by deep, dark, cool woods, and down the slope was a small pond, too cold for my tastes, but perfect for dog swimming, according to the Puppies O' Thunder. Saturday night was so clear that stars looked thick and close enough to touch. We sat under the leading edge of the Pleiades meteor shower and saw some dozen or more falling stars.

And there was quiet, a perfect stillness broken only by the hum of the bees and the cries of the birds. I turned to my deliciously geeky beloved at one point and mused "Wouldn't you love to live some place like this?"

He paused a moment to drink in the beauty and replied "Well, but, you can't get broadband out here."

ross
08-07-2007, 02:14 PM
"Well, but, you can't get broadband out here."

that was the first thing i thought of when i read the first paragraph. that and you cant get any kind of good beer up there because vermont has some stupid laws.

Pam
08-07-2007, 02:36 PM
that was the first thing i thought of when i read the first paragraph. that and you cant get any kind of good beer up there because vermont has some stupid laws.

Ha, so I'm speaking to another geek, huh? How often do you really need broadband? You go to a wireless hot spot once or twice a week and download the videos and music you want. *shurg*


I haven't run into any problems with beer in Vermont because I'm always bringing a cooler full from New York. They have a beer store here that makes me want to genuflect before I start down the aisles.

ross
08-07-2007, 04:17 PM
Ha, so I'm speaking to another geek, huh? How often do you really need broadband? You go to a wireless hot spot once or twice a week and download the videos and music you want. *shurg*


I haven't run into any problems with beer in Vermont because I'm always bringing a cooler full from New York. They have a beer store here that makes me want to genuflect before I start down the aisles.

i use the internet all the time. if i didnt, i wouldnt post on here.............

and by internet, i mean that i recently upgraded my internet line so that i have 8mpbs down instead of 5. dial up? uh i dont think i could use that. what is dial up?

Sickmont
08-07-2007, 04:30 PM
dial up? uh i dont think i could use that. what is dial up?

I think that's what Captain Kirk was using in 1967

cheezydemon
08-07-2007, 05:08 PM
I appreciate both points of view. It all comes down to priorities. Well titled.
If you have at least most of what is important nearby(ie. your geeky love, your dogs, beer, peppers etc.) then the internet becomes less important. But if the internet is your love....(either by replacing real relationships through sites like this one or sites of.....ill repute..AHEM) then you will not be comfortable in such a rustic setting and will crave your high speed love. Anyways...

imaguitargod
08-07-2007, 10:09 PM
*Sigh*...I do so love nature. I want to live in the middle of nowhere and eat off of what the land provides me, basking in the glory that us oneness.......

cheezydemon
08-08-2007, 09:57 AM
"The glory that us oneness...."

I am trying to follow you. Are you eating some more of that fungus? That sounds like shroom talk.

Anyways I agree. Part of me would like to be a farmer. Not a modern farmer with all kinds of automation, but the old fashioned kind. Then I think, Nah. Too early, too much work, you have to butcher animals, etc.

Pam
08-08-2007, 10:07 AM
i use the internet all the time. if i didnt, i wouldnt post on here.............

and by internet, i mean that i recently upgraded my internet line so that i have 8mpbs down instead of 5. dial up? uh i dont think i could use that. what is dial up?


Yabut, how often do you really need all that speed. No...no how often do you want that speed, how often do you really need it? You can do email, Usenet, and even this graphic rich web site on dial-up just fine.

So, me, I'd go with living in the back of nowhere. Just, you know, not in Vermont because I'm a great big whining cold wimp. I like South Carolina's long growing season and mild winters. I like ourr version of snow, where the schools all close at the first flake and everyone rushes out to buy milk and toilet paper, and by noon the next day all the snow has melted.

Vermont is gorgeous in the summer, though, and a nice escape from the heat wave afflicting Sout Carolina right now. Why I had to put on a jacket Saturday night!

Pam
08-08-2007, 10:09 AM
*Sigh*...I do so love nature. I want to live in the middle of nowhere and eat off of what the land provides me, basking in the glory that us oneness.......



Yeah, someday I'll remember to buy that multi-million dollar lottery nad hex it so I win. Then it's "bu bye" to the city!

cheezydemon
08-08-2007, 11:55 AM
Yeah, someday I'll remember to buy that multi-million dollar lottery nad hex it so I win. Then it's "bu bye" to the city!

Are you all speaking a foriegn language?

I thought we had it great here climate wise,(Kentucky) The winters usually provide 5-8 good snow falls, the summers are usually not above 90, good even growing condition, and a nice change from summer to fall to winter etc.(ie. changeing leaves etc.) but lately we have had minor droughts every year, very little snow, and now it is over 100 and will be all week. My peppers are loving it, but I am not so sure. Coupled with the humidity here 100 is miserable. It's not a dry heat like you get in Phoenix or San Diego.

Pam
08-08-2007, 12:52 PM
Are you all speaking a foriegn language?




Seeing as how you're from Kentucky, yeah, we probably are.

Sickmont
08-08-2007, 01:08 PM
Man...just reading this thread makes me want to pack up all my shit RIGHT NOW and head on out towards Albuquerque.
My plan is to wait for my daughter to graduate h.s.(2 years), then head out to Abq, NM. Then, my plan is to go about an hour or so outside of the city(into the middle of nowhere) and purchase a large parcel of ranch land, build me a little place of my own(with a huge shop, of course), and remove myself from civilization for the most part.

ross
08-08-2007, 02:34 PM
Yabut, how often do you really need all that speed. No...no how often do you want that speed, how often do you really need it? You can do email, Usenet, and even this graphic rich web site on dial-up just fine.

faster is always better.

whenever friends want to send me stuff it downloads in a hurry (provided they are using a good upload). say good bye to youtube if you get dial up.

sure, you may be able to use this site fine, but go to that thread where chuck is bragging about chugging the cave creek beer, and load that with dialup. you can go eat dinner and come back, wait 20 minutes, and then post on that post. sure, that isnt the norm.

i couldnt do without high speed. id like to live in the middle of nowhere, but i think portland maine would be just fine with me.. that way i could have good beer, cold weather, and high speed internet.

ross
08-08-2007, 02:35 PM
Man...just reading this thread makes me want to pack up all my shit RIGHT NOW and head on out towards Albuquerque.
My plan is to wait for my daughter to graduate h.s.(2 years), then head out to Abq, NM. Then, my plan is to go about an hour or so outside of the city(into the middle of nowhere) and purchase a large parcel of ranch land, build me a little place of my own(with a huge shop, of course), and remove myself from civilization for the most part.


just be a cordwainer.

Sickmont
08-08-2007, 02:38 PM
just be a cordwainer.

Ok, so now it's the "word of the month" club time?:lol:

ross
08-08-2007, 02:39 PM
Ok, so now it's the "word of the month" club time?:lol:

hahaha i couldnt resist. it just seemed to fit so well. speaking of cordwainers, have you ever looked at russell shoes?

www.russellmoccasin.com

Sickmont
08-08-2007, 02:55 PM
hahaha i couldnt resist. it just seemed to fit so well. speaking of cordwainers, have you ever looked at russell shoes?

www.russellmoccasin.com

Wow...nice stuff. A bit out of my league, though. I guess that's where my priorities lay. An $80 bottle opener, ok, but a $410 pair of hand made boots? Not today. Yep, i've got some issues.

ross
08-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Wow...nice stuff. A bit out of my league, though. I guess that's where my priorities lay. An $80 bottle opener, ok, but a $410 pair of hand made boots? Not today. Yep, i've got some issues.

they arent all 410 dollars. what did you do, look at the ostrich ones? haha

i have a pair of joes PH under the safari boots section. very comfortable, have worn them for 3-4 years so far, and they are about ready for new soles. the boot is still in great condition, and i wore them in snow, rain, ice, sleet, etc. they even do ok in the summer because they have a canvas top on them so your feet can breathe better.

they draw your feet and make the shoes to your individual feet, and dont buy them in standard sizes even though some are offered that way. my joes ph left shoe is an 8 1/2 and my right is a 9. i wear size 11 tennis shoes and dress shoes, so their shoes certainly dont follow the norm.

i love them though, i actually have a pair of the bird shooters too, but i dont wear them unless i am hunting. i want to get a pair of the casual shoes too. but right now im too busy buying knives.......... haha

PS - pam, sorry for the complete thread jack, though i guess this could be about priorities as well...

Pam
08-08-2007, 04:06 PM
PS - pam, sorry for the complete thread jack, though i guess this could be about priorities as well...


Did you hear that? It almost sounded like an unworthy pumpkin beer drinker speaking to me.

*haughty sniff*

Sickmont
08-08-2007, 04:13 PM
Did you hear that? It almost sounded like an unworthy pumpkin beer drinker speaking to me.

*haughty sniff*

Hey. Did i just hear you snort at him?

ross
08-08-2007, 05:13 PM
Did you hear that? It almost sounded like an unworthy pumpkin beer drinker speaking to me.

*haughty sniff*


pumpkin beer? talk about having priorities. my priority is to not drink that, ever.*

























* i have drank it though

cheezydemon
08-08-2007, 05:55 PM
Seeing as how you're from Kentucky, yeah, we probably are.

Wow, I really don't find that funny. Let me get this right: I don't know what a "million dollar lottery nad hex" is so you are going to make fun of me? For being from Kentucky? Wow. You aren't as smart as I gave you credit for.

Don't waste the "baleful glare" on me. I really don't care what you think anymore.

thehotpepper.com
08-08-2007, 06:21 PM
The member has been sent a warning for an offensive remark. Before this escalates, let's move on. Thanks

Pam
08-08-2007, 09:54 PM
pumpkin beer? talk about having priorities. my priority is to not drink that, ever.*





















* i have drank it though

So have I, thus my disdain. It's not a fruit though, so it doesn't fit under my "Fruit in beer is just wrong" fiat, it has its own category of scorn.

I mean, do brewers really think we want a beer that tastes like a pumpkin pie? Wouldn't one be drinking a foofoo drink complete with an umbrella if one wanted a drink that tasted like a pie?

ross
08-08-2007, 10:53 PM
So have I, thus my disdain. It's not a fruit though, so it doesn't fit under my "Fruit in beer is just wrong" fiat, it has its own category of scorn.

I mean, do brewers really think we want a beer that tastes like a pumpkin pie? Wouldn't one be drinking a foofoo drink complete with an umbrella if one wanted a drink that tasted like a pie?

i suppose that depends on what kinda pie youre talking about....


im not a fan of the pumpkin beers, no. somewhat of the DFH punkin ale, thats pretty good. but (to stay on topic) its not a priority that i drink that beer.

ross
08-08-2007, 10:56 PM
Wow, I really don't find that funny. Let me get this right: I don't know what a "million dollar lottery nad hex" is so you are going to make fun of me? For being from Kentucky? Wow. You aren't as smart as I gave you credit for.

Don't waste the "baleful glare" on me. I really don't care what you think anymore.

shes from sc, she cant make fun of anyone. i guess if it offended you, then thats outa line. she can say anything about me being from nc and ill just laugh. because everyone knows that nc is way better than sc. :)

relax, and have a beer. or:

RAHAB

DevilDuck
08-08-2007, 11:53 PM
Man...just reading this thread makes me want to pack up all my shit RIGHT NOW and head on out towards Albuquerque.
My plan is to wait for my daughter to graduate h.s.(2 years), then head out to Abq, NM. Then, my plan is to go about an hour or so outside of the city(into the middle of nowhere) and purchase a large parcel of ranch land, build me a little place of my own(with a huge shop, of course), and remove myself from civilization for the most part.


HA!! Lemme know when you want to do that. My wife is in real estate and mortgages. The only thing is, we have a relatively short growing season due to our altitude. It doesn't really get warm enough to plant outside 'till after Mother's Day, but you could definitely start indoors to get a head start. The ground is sand....it was sand a thousand years ago and it will be sand a thousand years from now. Soil prep is excruciating!!!! Mushroom compost is a MUST!!! The good thing is....peppers love it here. My peppers get the size of shrubs and put out like no one's business...and I get most of my peppers from Lowe's (Bonnie Plants).

Albuquerque proper really isn't a big city. It likes to think so, but it's not.

Pam
08-09-2007, 11:05 AM
HA!! Lemme know when you want to do that. My wife is in real estate and mortgages. The only thing is, we have a relatively short growing season due to our altitude. It doesn't really get warm enough to plant outside 'till after Mother's Day, but you could definitely start indoors to get a head start. The ground is sand....it was sand a thousand years ago and it will be sand a thousand years from now. Soil prep is excruciating!!!! Mushroom compost is a MUST!!! The good thing is....peppers love it here. My peppers get the size of shrubs and put out like no one's business...and I get most of my peppers from Lowe's (Bonnie Plants).

Albuquerque proper really isn't a big city. It likes to think so, but it's not.



So, what part of new Mexico is really good for growing peppers? The part that makes it a legend and all. Is it just that the season is nice and hot and dry, even if it is shorter?

We have long and hot, but the humidity is enough to slice and drink.

cheezydemon
08-09-2007, 12:37 PM
shes from sc, she cant make fun of anyone. i guess if it offended you, then thats outa line. she can say anything about me being from nc and ill just laugh. because everyone knows that nc is way better than sc. :)

relax, and have a beer. or:

RAHAB

Yeah, I lived in Raleigh for a year or so. I really liked it. Not too far from the coast, and not too far from the mountains, the best of both worlds.
In travelling I have encountered a lot of ignorant people who think that people in Kentucky don't wear shoes, wear overalls, have no teeth, etc. So I do bristle pretty easily when I encounter it. Ignorance and racism are the two biggest problems we have as a nation and I have little patience for somone who judges somone else based on how they look or where they are from.

DevilDuck
08-09-2007, 07:54 PM
Pam.... Hatch is where all of the green and red chiles are grown. It's about 3 hours south of here.

My peppers tend to be really slow at first, but then when you least expect it....BAM!!! Millions of peppers all at once. And sauce making begins.

rabbit
08-10-2007, 05:41 AM
Yeah, I lived in Raleigh for a year or so. I really liked it. Not too far from the coast, and not too far from the mountains, the best of both worlds.
In travelling I have encountered a lot of ignorant people who think that people in Kentucky don't wear shoes, wear overalls, have no teeth, etc. So I do bristle pretty easily when I encounter it. Ignorance and racism are the two biggest problems we have as a nation and I have little patience for somone who judges somone else based on how they look or where they are from.

I was just in Kentucky a couple weeks ago. My best friends and his Mom live down there. VERY, VERY different culture and VERY generous people. Also, I agree. None of them are inbred, they can hold up an intelligent conversation just like any other, they have nice cars, ect. His Mom lives in a trailer, but seeing there style of life down there. They would rather have the land not the big fancy house. Everytime I go down there I literally don't want to come back. Did I also mention it's beautiful and the deerhunting is good.:D I to have encountered that stereotype a few times. As a matter of fact last Easter I was with my fiances aunt and she was talking about the inbred people down there. Kind of ticked me off considering she's probably never even stayed the night in that state. Then again she thought I wasn't good enough because I didn't have a "College Education". Doesn't matter that I found school so easy it bored me, I excel at fabricating, work with engineers designing building prototype cars, and I'm also a war vet. Amazing how people can be quick to judge and not even see the rest.
Now about that scene in Vermont. I like chatting on the internet, but I could honestly give it up to live like that.:cool:

gardenkiller
08-10-2007, 07:17 AM
, and I'm also a war vet.

THANK YOU......seriously........THANK YOU:!:

rabbit
08-10-2007, 07:25 AM
THANK YOU......seriously........THANK YOU:!:

It's nice to be appreciated on occasion. Your welcome. :cool:

Sickmont
08-10-2007, 09:07 AM
As a matter of fact last Easter I was with my fiances aunt and she was talking about the inbred people down there. Kind of ticked me off considering she's probably never even stayed the night in that state.

You have nailed it completely on the head in 2 sentences....especially the second one. It's just plain ignorance, that's all. I'm from New Jersey, i spend 3 years in North Carolina, and i still occasionally joke with my friends there as being "rednecks", and they still bust my stones about being a "yankee". The difference, however, is i've been there and i know what it's all about and i know these people very, very well.

ross
08-10-2007, 09:34 AM
You have nailed it completely on the head in 2 sentences....especially the second one. It's just plain ignorance, that's all. I'm from New Jersey, i spend 3 years in North Carolina, and i still occasionally joke with my friends there as being "rednecks", and they still bust my stones about being a "yankee". The difference, however, is i've been there and i know what it's all about and i know these people very, very well.

uh i am from NC, and there are plenty of backwards people here.

Sickmont
08-10-2007, 09:38 AM
uh i am from NC, and there are plenty of backwards people here.

I haven't been to a place yet on this earth that doesn't have some backwards folks. Even in NYC!

ross
08-10-2007, 09:39 AM
I haven't been to a place yet on this earth that doesn't have some backwards folks. Even in NYC!

oh thats a given. damn yanks. :hell::hell:

Sickmont
08-10-2007, 09:43 AM
oh thats a given. damn yanks. :hell::hell:


hey, yank my doodle it's dandy:lol::hell:

ross
08-10-2007, 09:44 AM
Ok, time for my token "yankee joke" reply.

"Oh yeah? Well, yank my doodle it's dandy"

haha. you should have responded with something that i have to google to find out the meaning. you are slipping.

cheezydemon
08-10-2007, 10:42 AM
Lol. Thanks Rabbit. The worst people I have ever encountered are in California. They are amazed that I have shoes and don't speak with a drawl. California....the state with the most trailer parks in the nation. Every state has red necks, and that isn't a bad thing.
People who generalize about others in a negative way are trying to make themselves feel better for their own shortcomings. They want to pretend that they are in a club of "cool kids" who are better than another state or race or whatever.
I hesitate to say it, but I am in Louisville. It is an awesome town. But most of the rest of the people in the state do call Louisville "the big city". Pretty damn funny.

imaguitargod
08-11-2007, 01:07 AM
Oh this thread has gotten too good. Too bad I'm way too drunk to post anything really relivent at the time being. This thread will have to wait until tomarrow for me. (wow, I just spell checked this thing three times and found a ton of errors..........proof reading=good... ;) )

chilliman64
08-11-2007, 09:21 AM
I'm too cheap to pay for broadband for my work laptop that I use when at home, so here I am, shuffling along on dialup at the verrryyyyy slllowwww speed of 26.4 kbps.

gotta get my own pc, gotta get my own pc, gotta get my own pc...

ross
08-11-2007, 10:32 AM
I'm too cheap to pay for broadband for my work laptop that I use when at home, so here I am, shuffling along on dialup at the verrryyyyy slllowwww speed of 26.4 kbps.

gotta get my own pc, gotta get my own pc, gotta get my own pc...

"work" laptop? sounds like a business expense. get your company to pay for your internet :lol:

ross
08-11-2007, 10:33 AM
"work" laptop? sounds like a business expense. get your company to pay for your internet :lol:

you can reply tomorrow when you have successfully loaded the page. :onfire::onfire:

Pam
08-11-2007, 11:18 AM
uh i am from NC, and there are plenty of backwards people here.

A couple of 'em even have a sense of humor.



Pam, South Carolina lobcock, and barefoot to boot.*





* pun intended

Pam
08-11-2007, 11:19 AM
haha. you should have responded with something that i have to google to find out the meaning. you are slipping.

You...you...North Carolina Macroverbumsciolist, you!

DevilDuck
08-11-2007, 12:47 PM
Macroverbumsciolist...

Great...another word I have to look up.

ross
08-11-2007, 01:30 PM
You...you...North Carolina Macroverbumsciolist, you!


good god. that is a huge word. thank god for copy and paste

chilliman64
08-11-2007, 10:15 PM
you can reply tomorrow when you have successfully loaded the page. :onfire::onfire:

actually it's not too bad but lots of pics really slow things down.

cheezydemon
08-13-2007, 03:44 PM
Pam.... Hatch is where all of the green and red chiles are grown. It's about 3 hours south of here.

My peppers tend to be really slow at first, but then when you least expect it....BAM!!! Millions of peppers all at once. And sauce making begins.

I have seen some specials on the Hatch chili festival. Is it the "Big Jim" that is so revered there? And I am pretty sure that the growing season there is relatively long. It is just your elevation that makes yours short right?

DevilDuck
08-13-2007, 04:46 PM
I guess... Summer is pretty short. Once September hits, it's all over but the freeze. I can usually baby my plants up until early November, but the yield drops way off.

I'm not sure about the variety grown in Hatch. From what I can gather (I haven't done a lot of research either), Hatch Chile is the variety grown.

cheezydemon
08-13-2007, 04:48 PM
That is not too bad really. What makes hatch so great?

Dethwind
08-13-2007, 06:47 PM
You...you...North Carolina Macroverbumsciolist, you!

Great...another word I have to look up.

could have been worse...

floccinaucinihilipilification... now that word is worthless...

Or if you really want a word. check this one out. (an actual word)

acetylseryltyrosylserylisoleucylthreonylserylproly lserylglutaminyl-
phenylalanylvalylphenylalanylleucylserylserylvalyl tryptophylalanyl-
aspartylprolylisoleucylglutamylleucylleucylasparag inylvalylcysteinyl-
threonylserylserylleucylglycylasparaginylglutaminy lphenylalanyl-
glutaminylthreonylglutaminylglutaminylalanylarginy lthreonylthreonyl-
glutaminylvalylglutaminylglutaminylphenylalanylser ylglutaminylvalyl-
tryptophyllysylprolylphenylalanylprolylglutaminyls erylthreonylvalyl-
arginylphenylalanylprolylglycylaspartylvalyltyrosy llysylvalyltyrosyl-
arginyltyrosylasparaginylalanylvalylleucylaspartyl prolylleucylisoleucyl-
threonylalanylleucylleucylglycylthreonylphenylalan ylaspartylthreonyl-
arginylasparaginylarginylisoleucylisoleucylglutamy lvalylglutamyl-
asparaginylglutaminylglutaminylserylprolylthreonyl threonylalanylglutamyl-
threonylleucylaspartylalanylthreonylarginylarginyl valylaspartylaspartyl-
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asparaginylleucylvalylasparaginylglutamylleucylval ylarginylglycyl-
threonylglycylleucyltyrosylasparaginylglutaminylas paraginylthreonyl-
phenylalanylglutamylserylmethionylserylglycylleucy lvalyltryptophyl-
threonylserylalanylprolylalanylserine

DevilDuck
08-13-2007, 07:57 PM
That is not too bad really. What makes hatch so great?

Lava fields. That stuff makes for some really fertile soil. I get desert sand mixed with whatever I throw in with it. The good stuff always settles to the bottom and the sand comes to the top. I've stopped trying to fight it. I turn the "soil" every spring, but right now all you see is sand.

Pam
08-13-2007, 09:23 PM
Lava fields. That stuff makes for some really fertile soil. I get desert sand mixed with whatever I throw in with it. The good stuff always settles to the bottom and the sand comes to the top. I've stopped trying to fight it. I turn the "soil" every spring, but right now all you see is sand.

I live in the Sandhills of South Carolina, so I feel your pain! And if you get through the sand, there's a nice base of red clay. It's taken me years to get enough organic matter into the soil that I can call it a garden and not a sand box.

DevilDuck
08-13-2007, 10:21 PM
HA!!! I don't even get the red clay base. It's sand for 40' at least, then you hit rock.

rabbit
08-14-2007, 04:14 AM
Lol. Thanks Rabbit. The worst people I have ever encountered are in California. They are amazed that I have shoes and don't speak with a drawl. California....the state with the most trailer parks in the nation. Every state has red necks, and that isn't a bad thing.
People who generalize about others in a negative way are trying to make themselves feel better for their own shortcomings. They want to pretend that they are in a club of "cool kids" who are better than another state or race or whatever.
I hesitate to say it, but I am in Louisville. It is an awesome town. But most of the rest of the people in the state do call Louisville "the big city". Pretty damn funny.

Now.....I never said I wasn't ....KIND of a redneck:lol::lol: (My liking to live off the land as much as possible is the relation.)It is odd how so many people judge quickly though.;)Yes I also know of the California thing you mention. I get that alot out here as well. While I'm not a big fan of alot of the laws in California I have no problem with the people there either. I've got quite a few family members out there. The point you brought up is the point I was making as well. There's good and bad people EVERYWHERE!!! I like to judge each person on there actions.

ross
08-14-2007, 11:30 AM
could have been worse...

floccinaucinihilipilification... now that word is worthless...

Or if you really want a word. check this one out. (an actual word)

acetylseryltyrosylserylisoleucylthreonylserylproly lserylglutaminyl-
phenylalanylvalylphenylalanylleucylserylserylvalyl tryptophylalanyl-
aspartylprolylisoleucylglutamylleucylleucylasparag inylvalylcysteinyl-
threonylserylserylleucylglycylasparaginylglutaminy lphenylalanyl-
glutaminylthreonylglutaminylglutaminylalanylarginy lthreonylthreonyl-
glutaminylvalylglutaminylglutaminylphenylalanylser ylglutaminylvalyl-
tryptophyllysylprolylphenylalanylprolylglutaminyls erylthreonylvalyl-
arginylphenylalanylprolylglycylaspartylvalyltyrosy llysylvalyltyrosyl-
arginyltyrosylasparaginylalanylvalylleucylaspartyl prolylleucylisoleucyl-
threonylalanylleucylleucylglycylthreonylphenylalan ylaspartylthreonyl-
arginylasparaginylarginylisoleucylisoleucylglutamy lvalylglutamyl-
asparaginylglutaminylglutaminylserylprolylthreonyl threonylalanylglutamyl-
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why?

cheezydemon
08-14-2007, 03:46 PM
HA!!! I don't even get the red clay base. It's sand for 40' at least, then you hit rock.

We made raised beds out of untreated pine (12" by 12' by 3'boxes)we filled the boxes with a good amount of "garden soil" mixed with manure, all bought at Lowe's Home center. The boxes work great for keeping weeds out, but they might help you as well by giving you some controlled soil on top of the sand. Then again it sounds like you are doing pretty well with 5' plants!:shocked:

cheezydemon
08-14-2007, 03:53 PM
Now.....I never said I wasn't ....KIND of a redneck:lol::lol: (My liking to live off the land as much as possible is the relation.)It is odd how so many people judge quickly though.;)Yes I also know of the California thing you mention. I get that alot out here as well. While I'm not a big fan of alot of the laws in California I have no problem with the people there either. I've got quite a few family members out there. The point you brought up is the point I was making as well. There's good and bad people EVERYWHERE!!! I like to judge each person on there actions.

It takes a very strong person to not generalize or "just go with the crowd". Accepting a person with no pre-concieved notions about their race, ethnicity, social class, sexual preference etc. is damn near impossible for us humans, but I strongly admire those who do their best to.