Me and my F-inlaw are looking for some hot sauce :)

[The Iron Tongue]

Hi guys and girls.

Just joined up and posted in the welcome forum.

Basically I've just discovered extract Sauces/additives :hell:

My father in law and I regularly like to try new sauces. It's some what a competition for him possibly as I think he tries to better me lol. I think he has only just moved on from thinking tabasco is hot.
Unfortunatly I have years of torture behind me to up my tolerence :lol: Both as self caused and as punishment lol

The only thing I've had recently that seems to be the only thing that got my eyes watering is nando's hot peri peri sauce (gets the f/inlaw too). Only when it's been used whilst cooking on flame grilled chicken at nando's restaurant though. For some reason I can use it straight out of the bottle easy, or in home cooking even. But when it's put on some chicken at the restaurant which is then cooked, it's a different story lol. Odd! Maybe the restaurant secretly use some extra hot stuff lol.

The other night we tried some mama africas hot sauce, which really is like the peri peri in taste (which we like). It didn't seem to bother me at all. But it got my F/inlaw lol. His eyes were watering, he was coughing, wiping his nose lol.

Basically, I wanna buy us some hot stuff lol. He wouldn't want just the burn. He does like what he is ingesting to have some kind of taste lol. So I am guessing extract stuff is out of the question?

Can people recommend me something for him? Main useage would be in place of ketchup, random uses with dinner. (however in small amounts and not very often as he likes his sauces to last for what seems like forever lol) It needs to be a step up in heat from what he is used to though.

I am resisting the temptation to get him a scolding hot extract based item just as a prank.

I'm a bit more tolerent so am looking for a bit of taste, but it's not too important, more after the heat. I'm going to order some of Blairs 3 am, which I've heard is :mouthonfire: Maybe jumping in the deep end but I'm the kinda fool who has split raw habeneros open and placed on my tongue for a dare lol. Hence the name.

I'm crazy.

But if something could recommend something for a bit more of everyday use and is HOT HOT HOT I'd be gratefull.

Being in the UK my main place to order from is:
http://www.chilefarm.co.uk/
So if you could look in the hot sauces section and recommend me something I'd be gratefull

Also that, this place has a wider variety it would seem:
http://www.chilliworld.com/index.asp

Let me know from which of those to you have seen the sauce you recommend as I can have a blind moment when looking for things lol

Thanks people,

The Iron Tongue.

[The Iron Tongue]

So far I've found the following:

Mad dog 357 ((with bullet key ring)poss one for the inlaw too)
Who Dares Burns (for the inlaw as apparently has good taste)
Blair's Possible Side Effects (also meant to have good taste but maye too hot for the inlaw?)

Which seem to be alright.

:?:

[thehotpepper.com]

Blair's Possible Side Effects (also meant to have good taste but maye too hot for the inlaw?)

:?:

Had some last night... good stuff!

[huvason]

:(

[DEFCON Creator]

I would suggest the Defcon Defense Condition #1 as was stated. It's got the extract heat, but is definitely backed with a lot of flavor.

[The Iron Tongue]

I would suggest the Defcon Defense Condition #1 as was stated. It's got the extract heat, but is definitely backed with a lot of flavor.

Do you do mail order to the UK?

I was on your site late last night :)

looks good. Only probs is the sauce wont be used on wings. However it seems it can be used on a variety or foods :)


Well, as a shameless plug , I would recommend the 2007 Scovie Award winning Fat Kid Sauces!!! (there is a discount for all THP members - use HOTPEPPER15 at checkout for 15% off).

You MUST try CaJOhns stuff - Talon, Fatalli Fire are excellent and very hot! Then there is Cape Fear Pepper company, and for wing sauce - DEFCON is definitely the only way to go.

Where can I find these?

[The Iron Tongue]

Defcon:
Could you tell me the scoville ratings for your sauces?

huvason:
Found the fat kid stuff online, but no scoville ratings :(

[DEFCON Creator]

I don't personally whole-heartedly believe in the whole Scoville ratings thing. Different people are affected differently by all different levels of heat. Some find our #2 to be too hot for them, most don't, just the opposite with the #1.

When buying a hot sauce, I'll be the judge whether it's hot or not to me, not basing everything solely on Scoville units.

[imaguitargod]

CaJohn's Ace is good. Also, you can take Cape Fear's Red Savina hot sauce and mix it with ketchup and it's AWESOME!

[huvason]

:(

[The Iron Tongue]

I think I am going to order the fat kid set. Along with defcon 1 and 2 to go with the blairs 3am.

I'll hand the inlaw the defcon 2 and probably get him a bottle of who dares burns which is rated at 90,000.
the mama africas we tried the other night was rated at 22,000.

By the way. How is extract listed on the ingredients? Just as extract?

[thehotpepper.com]

Please don't promote your own sauces when members are looking for objective opinions, otherwise every member will be chiming in and it will be a sales thread, not a discussion.

[huvason]

Where can I find these?

I think I am going to order the fat kid set. Along with defcon 1 and 2 to go with the blairs 3am.

I'll hand the inlaw the defcon 2 and probably get him a bottle of who dares burns which is rated at 90,000.
the mama africas we tried the other night was rated at 22,000.

By the way. How is extract listed on the ingredients? Just as extract?

Go to CaJOhns website - or any on line retailer. Go with the CaJohns stuff over mine. You'll prefer the heat of a Talon or a Fatalli fire.

Extract can be listed in MANY different ways (dont you just love the FDA).

[imaguitargod]

:(

Oh ya, FKS is good too when you go with the really hot ones!

[thehotpepper.com]

By the way. How is extract listed on the ingredients? Just as extract?
I'd like to know this too. Natural pepper flavor, pepper resin, etc. Which are extracts and what other tricky wording is out there? Thanks!

[imaguitargod]

Pepper Extract is usually what I find.

[The Iron Tongue]

Go to CaJOhns website - or any on line retailer. Go with the CaJohns stuff over mine. You'll prefer the heat of a Talon or a Fatalli fire.

Extract can be listed in MANY different ways (dont you just love the FDA).

Thnaks,

I've seen the Fat Kid stuff and well they "look" nice lol.

I'm hoping to get my heat kick out of the defcon 1 and the blairs 3 am. I may still order one of Blairs Death Sauces also. I've heard the Jersey Death is pretty flavoursome. So unless you think the CaJOhns stuff has a better flavour then I'll go for the Fat Kid. :?:

Can people please assure me that these sauces etc, don't taste like Tabasco! lol. I really hated the taste of that when I used to find it how lol.

I may get some of that mama africas hot sauce and some more peri peri nandos as they did have an awesome taste :)

[huvason]

Thnaks,

I've seen the Fat Kid stuff and well they "look" nice lol.

I'm hoping to get my heat kick out of the defcon 1 and the blairs 3 am. I may still order one of Blairs Death Sauces also. I've heard the Jersey Death is pretty flavoursome. So unless you think the CaJOhns stuff has a better flavour then I'll go for the Fat Kid. :?:

Can people please assure me that these sauces etc, don't taste like Tabasco! lol. I really hated the taste of that when I used to find it how lol.

I may get some of that mama africas hot sauce and some more peri peri nandos as they did have an awesome taste :)

Jersey death is one of my favorite extract suaces.

For the non-extract heat, go with CaJohn....

[chuk hell]

I didn't like the taste of Possible Side Effects AT ALL...but it's real dang hot. All I tasted was extract.

I second the recommendations of CaJohn's Stuff.

[thehotpepper.com]

Pepper Extract is usually what I find.

Possible Side Effects: Natural Pepper Flavor
Jersey Death: Natural Pepper Flavor
Mega Death: Natural Pepper Flavor
Sudden Death: Pure Pepper Resin

Extract not listed... I am assuming the above are extracts?

[The Iron Tongue]

"You MUST try CaJOhns stuff - Talon, Fatalli Fire are excellent and very hot!"

I can't find either of those on their site.

I also notice they advertise the viscous viper as 2 million scoville, But I've seen it advertised many other places at a lot lower rating (80,000) odd.

[Cap'n Bones]

Possible Side Effects: Natural Pepper Flavor
Jersey Death: Natural Pepper Flavor
Mega Death: Natural Pepper Flavor
Sudden Death: Pure Pepper Resin

Extract not listed... I am assuming the above are extracts?

They are sauces with pepper extract as part of the ingredients, but not completely made of pure extract. That's why some "extracts" cost $15.00 for a few ounces, and "extract sauces" can be found for less than $10.00 for a 5oz bottle.

Examples of extract are the Defcon Zero, and CaJohn's Black Mamba.

[thehotpepper.com]

They are sauces with pepper extract as part of the ingredients, but not completely made of pure extract. That's why some "extracts" cost $15.00 for a few ounces, and "extract sauces" can be found for less than $10.00 for a 5oz bottle.

Examples of extract are the Defcon Zero, and CaJohn's Black Mamba.
But they are not calling it extract in the ingredients.

[thehotpepper.com]

I didn't like the taste of Possible Side Effects AT ALL...but it's real dang hot. All I tasted was extract.
Really? The cayenne really comes through, which is nice for a super hot sauce. I like it.

[The Iron Tongue]

Found the talon. However why doesnt the CaJOhns site list it? Is it discontinued?

I'll be ordering it soon.

Will be placing an order for DEFCONs 1 and 2 soon as well.

[The Iron Tongue]

Just ordered teh Talon, along with Blairs Jersey Death and Mad dog 357 with bullet :)

Considering the Magma too.

Will be placing an order with the creator soon ;)

[The Iron Tongue]

Just ordered defcons 1, 2 (2 times) and 3 (2 times)

Also got the who dares burns and the 3 am on its way :)

[huvason]

Just ordered teh Talon, along with Blairs Jersey Death and Mad dog 357 with bullet :)

Considering the Magma too.

Will be placing an order with the creator soon ;)

The Magma isnt really for consumption (IMHO) THe extract resin basically floats in vinegar giving you a Lava Lamp effect. Nice for the shelf of doom, but not sure how it would taste.

[The Iron Tongue]

The Magma isnt really for consumption (IMHO) THe extract resin basically floats in vinegar giving you a Lava Lamp effect. Nice for the shelf of doom, but not sure how it would taste.


I didn't go for it in the end.

Can't wait for all these hot sauces to come through :)

I was out buying all my chicken etc early this morning in preperation lol.

[The Iron Tongue]

Defcon Creator,

I sent you a couple of messages re my order. Please tell me you got them!:oops:

[DEFCON Creator]

Defcon Creator,

I sent you a couple of messages re my order. Please tell me you got them!:oops:

Got 'em, no worries.

[The Iron Tongue]

Got 'em, no worries.

Thanks!

I knew I'd forgot to specify the proper delivery address, and started to panic. lol.

Thanks.

[chuk hell]

Really? The cayenne really comes through, which is nice for a super hot sauce. I like it.

I'm picky.

[tinner666]

I'm hoping to get my heat kick out of the defcon 1 and the blairs 3 am. I may still order one of Blairs Death Sauces also. I've heard the Jersey Death is pretty flavoursome.:mouthonfire: Jd is flavorful and rated at 880K. I use it a lot.
Just want heat, Final Answer will fill the bill. Put 1/4" on a toothpick, wipe it real clean, and you'll think Jersey Death was Tabasco.:mouthonfire: :lol:

[The Iron Tongue]

I've got my kicks out of defcons 1 2 and 3, have blairs 3am waiting to be used. And now also have Madog 357, Cajohns talon and blairs Jersey Death added to my tongue testing line up.

[Philipperv]

My hot-shot 16 year old son's birthday is on Friday and he says that nothing is too hot for him (takes after his old man!). Well I decided to get him Blair's 3AM as his 1st really hot sauce/extract to try. Did I screw up?

[imaguitargod]

My hot-shot 16 year old son's birthday is on Friday and he says that nothing is too hot for him (takes after his old man!). Well I decided to get him Blair's 3AM as his 1st really hot sauce/extract to try. Did I screw up?
Yes, that's not a sauce you eat, that's a collectors sauce.

[Philipperv]

Yes, that's not a sauce you eat, that's a collectors sauce.

Actually i sent an email to Blair's about that cause I didn't know if you could get the thing open or not and they said that you can and it is an edible sauce. They said that the 3AM isn't numbered by Blair anymore which doesn't really make it a collectable either.

[chilliman64]

TIT - try ordering some Naga Snake Bite from darlochileman's webstore chileman.org try this thread for more info:

www.thehotpepper.com/showthread.php?t=2138

the Possible Side Effects is supposed to be around 283,000 SHU's with Mega Death at around 550,000, Jersey Death is in the 600,000's I believe and all are hotter than Sudden Death. I regularly use Mega Death and find that to be a very hot extract/additive. get some of that and add it to some of your 'tasty' sauces for the best of both worlds.

Mark

[imaguitargod]

Actually i sent an email to Blair's about that cause I didn't know if you could get the thing open or not and they said that you can and it is an edible sauce. They said that the 3AM isn't numbered by Blair anymore which doesn't really make it a collectable either.
I did not know that. Well, any sauce is edible, but I think 3am is just an extract sauce to be added to things, am I correct on that?

[DEFCON Creator]

Yes you are.

[Philipperv]

Yes you are.

Then why does it have fresh chilis in it?

http://www.sweatnspice.com/92-15.htm

[texas blues]

Uncle Big should have some close to the 600K range also. Realistically, how would one be able to tell the diff between extract and fresh chili's when they are that hot?

[imaguitargod]

Realistically, how would one be able to tell the diff between extract and fresh chili's when they are that hot?

Experiemce.

[dreamtheatervt]

I did not know that. Well, any sauce is edible, but I think 3am is just an extract sauce to be added to things, am I correct on that?

AnyTHING that is smaller than your mouth is edible...its just a matter of whether you should eat it or not :lol:

[DEFCON Creator]

Then why does it have fresh chilis in it?

http://www.sweatnspice.com/92-15.htm

What's the difference? If you're very curious, do a shot. :hell:

[Philipperv]

What's the difference? If you're very curious, do a shot. :hell:

Wish i could. The shipping on that kind of stuff to get here is about $18 which is almost what the stuff costs on Ebay. Think i'll just make my own Naga sauce. :mouthonfire:

[texas blues]

Philipperv, is your daughter going to be your Naga Sauce taste tester?

[darthcarl]

Please don't promote your own sauces when members are looking for objective opinions, otherwise every member will be chiming in and it will be a sales thread, not a discussion.

I am willing to vouch for Defcon sauces as a great product. I also loved Cape Fear Red Savina. Three Hot Tamales Toxic Tonic is a flavorful-hot sauce as well.

Although I have a lot more un-opened bottles, those are the the three from here I have tried.

[Philipperv]

Philipperv, is your daughter going to be your Naga Sauce taste tester?

Hard to say right now. She has turned down invitations to taste my latest Red Savina sauce so she has some cash flow from somewhere. If she's really broke in 1-2 months when I make the Naga sauce then she might give in. Will keep you posted.

[texas blues]

Since it won't be quite the same as eating a whole Naga, bribe here with 10 bucks and then take pics!!

[Philipperv]

Since it won't be quite the same as eating a whole Naga, bribe here with 10 bucks and then take pics!!

I tried that already but I only offered $4 for a 1/2 shot glass and she wouldn't go for it. Will up the ante after the sauce is done.

P.S. I 1/2 heartedly offered her $10 to eat 3/4 of a green Dorset Naga (which she hasn't ever seen before) today and she wouldn't go for it. She's getting wise. :(

[texas blues]

4 shekels for 1/2 a shot glass? She IS getting too smart. Try a tablespoon full and up it to 5. That amount should be pretty potent. (what kind of sick bastards are we that we are negotiating how to torture your kid!)

[Philipperv]

(what kind of sick bastards are we that we are negotiating how to torture your kid!)

I've always been that way. :hell:

[imaguitargod]

(what kind of sick bastards are we that we are negotiating how to torture your kid!)
What can I say, we're good at what we do.

[texas blues]

As Mr. Burns says while rubbing hands together..."Excellent!"

[Philipperv]

Texas,

She just agreed to eat 1/2 a Dorset Naga for $20. Will take video. :onfire:

http://www.webspawner.com/users/perversion/dorsetnaga1.jpg

[texas blues]

Bless her heart! Surely she knows its for the sake of all mankind and world peace and whatever other lies we can think up.
Will be standing by with the fire extinguisher.

[Philipperv]

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qI2XNIOaMo

Amazing what capsicum tolerance can do!

[chilliman64]

hey Philipperv, I saw you were the winning bidder on ebay for an item I was watching!

[Philipperv]

hey Philipperv, I saw you were the winning bidder on ebay for an item I was watching!

Yeah...that was a birthday present for my son in Vegas. The seller is really good and he is still offering the same item for for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLAIRS-3AM-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ190104297768QQihZ009QQcategoryZ14 313QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD7VQQcmdZViewItem

[Philipperv]

Chilliman,

Check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLAIRS-3AM-RESERVE-SIGNED-HOT-SAUCE-LOW-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ120111660195QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1 4313QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD7VQQcmdZViewItem

[texas blues]

WOW!! She not only ate the Naga but she OWNED the Naga! She rocks!! The Naga would tear my head off and she hardly blinked!
Does she eat chilis every day? If so, what kind?

[Philipperv]

WOW!!
Does she eat chilis every day? If so, what kind?

Not at all. She hates spicy food even. This is purely cash desperation. Btw, her take is that the Naga Morich from Bangladesh beats the Dorset in heat.

[JayT]

watched that video today. She is amazing. I do have a question. The video ends with her running away. To the bathroom??? How long did the pain last. What did she have to say about it when she was able to talk again?

[texas blues]

JayT. Welcome to the forum. The bit about the Naga pepper as above by Philipperv is that his daughter just joined the forum and the new rules are that all newcomers must eat the Naga, Norich or Dorsett doesn't matter, and then post pics or video. If you do not have a Naga, I am sure someone will send you one. It is non negotiable. Good luck!

[Philipperv]

watched that video today. She is amazing. I do have a question. The video ends with her running away. To the bathroom??? How long did the pain last. What did she have to say about it when she was able to talk again?

No she ran to the sink to spit like she always does. The only rule is that she isn't allowed to puke and she never has. She was complaining about stomach pain the rest of the day. She was able to talk the entire time. Her tolerance is amazing now.

[JayT]

JayT. Welcome to the forum. The bit about the Naga pepper as above by Philipperv is that his daughter just joined the forum and the new rules are that all newcomers must eat the Naga, Norich or Dorsett doesn't matter, and then post pics or video. If you do not have a Naga, I am sure someone will send you one. It is non negotiable. Good luck!

I would love to get my hands on some fresh Nagas. If anyone can send me some (enough that I can make some sauce for myself out of them) I will eat some and have pictures for the blog... I wouldn't want to miss out on the hazing ritual even if it doesn't really exist. I am nuts enough to do it anyway.:party:

[texas blues]

JayT...even I with all my manly man super powers, do not possess the cajones to try and eat the Naga. I bow down to all those who can do so. I would send you some if I had them but alas....perhaps other members on this forum can accommodate you.
Imaguitargod might be a good bet.

[JayT]

JayT...even I with all my manly man super powers, do not possess the cajones to try and eat the Naga. I bow down to all those who can do so. I would send you some if I had them but alas....perhaps other members on this forum can accommodate you.
Imaguitargod might be a good bet.

I ate the Source on a toothpick a couple of weeks ago can't be too much hotter than that can it? Not saying I would eat the whole thing but a good bite anyway.

[texas blues]

I have never tried the super wombat hot stuff myself. I have eaten a hab but found it just too hot for me. I much prefer flavor over heat just for heat's sake. I think some of the sauces out there are made more for the "shock factor" more than real consumption although I do know some folks that can handle them. Don't get me wrong...while I might not be able to handle the hottest of the hot, I wouldn't turn an eye away from watching someone else suffer through eating the naga...but then I have been described as "lewd and suggestive". I wouldn't really do it....but I would only "suggest it".

[JayT]

I have never tried the super wombat hot stuff myself. I have eaten a hab but found it just too hot for me. I much prefer flavor over heat just for heat's sake. I think some of the sauces out there are made more for the "shock factor" more than real consumption although I do know some folks that can handle them. Don't get me wrong...while I might not be able to handle the hottest of the hot, I wouldn't turn an eye away from watching someone else suffer through eating the naga...but then I have been described as "lewd and suggestive". I wouldn't really do it....but I would only "suggest it".

Ahhh nothing like the taste of a fresh habanero in the morning!

[JayT]

JayT...even I with all my manly man super powers, do not possess the cajones to try and eat the Naga. I bow down to all those who can do so. I would send you some if I had them but alas....perhaps other members on this forum can accommodate you.
Imaguitargod might be a good bet.

Would philipperv pay me $20 to eat the Naga too?

[Philipperv]

Would philipperv pay me $20 to eat the Naga too?

No because real chiliheads should do it just cause they love the burn. :hell:

[chilliman64]

No because real chiliheads should do it just cause they love the burn. :hell:

+1 bro :cool:

[chilliman64]

Chilliman,

Check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLAIRS-3AM-RESERVE-SIGNED-HOT-SAUCE-LOW-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ120111660195QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1 4313QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD7VQQcmdZViewItem

thanks for the link P! I like Blair's products. I'm quite partial to a wee splash of Mega Death.

[JayT]

No because real chiliheads should do it just cause they love the burn. :hell:

I was only kidding. When I finally get my hands on some I will take pictures or video.

[Philipperv]

I've recently been turning all my excess peppers into hot sauce and just added all the Trinidad Scorpions I harvested to it and a few more Red Savinas. It is some brutal stuff! Well i was screwing around and dared Glenda (with $5) to drink a shot glass of it. Well she did and my jaw dropped cause a drop of this stuff really burns your mouth!

Other than some stomach discomfort she was ok and i'm thinking how she can put her new "talent" to good use. Maybe one day she'll replace this guy:

http://tourism.albay.gov.ph/siliking.htm

[JayT]

She definitely has a gift. Maybe you should put her up against that Indian woman that eats Naga's like potato chips that I read about a while back. She was supposed to be going for the world record in the UK but I don't remember hearing anything more about it.

[Philipperv]

Yeah me either. I was dying to see her in action downing 60 Nagas in 1 sitting.

[cmpman1974]

I tasted a Trinidad Scorpion sauce made by an individual on another forum. It was pretty lethal and wasn't even 100% pure Trinidad Scorpion. Tastewise, it was great. :)

Chris


I've recently been turning all my excess peppers into hot sauce and just added all the Trinidad Scorpions I harvested to it and a few more Red Savinas. It is some brutal stuff! Well i was screwing around and dared Glenda (with $5) to drink a shot glass of it. Well she did and my jaw dropped cause a drop of this stuff really burns your mouth!

Other than some stomach discomfort she was ok and i'm thinking how she can put her new "talent" to good use. Maybe one day she'll replace this guy:

http://tourism.albay.gov.ph/siliking.htm

[Pam]

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qI2XNIOaMo

Amazing what capsicum tolerance can do!


Y'all are awful! how can you do that to that lovely child!

[texas blues]

Aw c'mon Pam, after all you did watch the video right? Just like driving by the car wreck and telling yourself you won't turn your head to watch....but you still turn and look. I remember my own sister doing the same thing to me as a kid. A buck to do a glass of vinegar, eating a raw whole onion like an apple etc. 'Sides, it was all in good fun and she even negotiated price. She is a lovely gal and I am sure Philipperv is very proud of her. She's got me well beat on the pepper eating. You go girl!!

[Philipperv]

Y'all are awful! how can you do that to that lovely child!

Do what? Offer her $ to eat chilis? I don't see a gun to her head in any of these videos.

[chilliman64]

nothing wrong with a little exploitation

[JayT]

She's a rockstar in my book! :onfire:

[Philipperv]

I have an announcement to make: I am officially retiring Glenda because I found some neighborhood kids that will eat whole Red Savinas, Devil's tongue habs and Nagas for 50 cents each! Video and further details to come as they become available.

[texas blues]

Philipperv...you and Glenda rock!! Neighborhood kids huh? Don't tell Pam.

[Philipperv]

Philipperv...you and Glenda rock!! Neighborhood kids huh? Don't tell Pam.

;)

[chilliman64]

sounds like you could get your own Phillippines version of Jackass going Philipperv!!!

[Philipperv]

sounds like you could get your own Phillippines version of Jackass going Philipperv!!!

Well there are alot of them around here. :P

[Sickmont]

Well there are alot of them around here. :P

Hey! I resemble that remark!!:lol: