E.Z. Earl's Blazin-Hot Stuff

[thehotpepper.com]

Sauce Reviewed: E.Z. Earl's Blazin-Hot Stuff
Company: Branding Iron Foods
Member: E.Z. Earl (http://www.thehotpepper.com/member.php?u=749)
Website: www.brandingironfoods.com
By: TheHotPepper.com

Ingredients: Pure white vinegar, filtered water, diced tomatoes in juice, English-Style Worchester sauce (no anchovies), secret blend of 12 natural herbs & spices, Oregon Clover honey, concentrated lemon juice, x-hot horseradish, salt, natural hickory smoke, precooked food starch, hot chili extract, natural Xanthan (as stabilizer).

First Impression
First impression is a bit confusing. What is this sauce? A BBQ sauce? A hot sauce? It says it has many uses, which I'm sure it does, but to me, this is a BBQ sauce, and a darn good one.

Label and Packaging
A huge 13.4 ounce bottle with a picture of E.Z. and the story of his sauce. Great packaging.

Appearance
I'm really excited when I find a BBQ sauce that has all natural ingredients, and no high-fructose corn syrup, or regular corn syrup. If you looked at the sauce on a spoon you wouldn't know it wasn't there. It has a great sheen, and a perfect consistency for BBQ.

Taste
Taste's like a mean no-joke BBQ sauce. Tangy, bold, and spicy. Your lips will tingle after about a minute. Very spicy, not extreme, but this isn't a hot sauce condiment, it's a cooking sauce. You can taste where the heat is coming from. For one... lots of black pepper! The black pepper tastes freshly cracked. You can also taste the horseradish. Very nice to taste a hot sauce where the black pepper and horseradish are providing a lot of the heat. There's also "hot chili extract" listed. That's what provides the lip-tingling. Smoke is listed, but it isn't a smoky sauce. The best adjective... bold!

Applications
BBQ and Bloody Marys... definitely! It also says this can be used as a condiment (and lists tacos), but to me, this is a cooking sauce. It's very potent, almost like a concentrate (with all the black pepper and spices), perfect for brushing on your BBQ'ed meats, or adding to a Bloody Mary, but a little to potent to put on top of a taco or used as a condiment in another way. I tried it on top of some pulled pork and ribs, but it was take-out (hey, who says you can't get good BBQ in NYC... check the pictures!), so I didn't get to use it as a cooking sauce. The flavor was great, but I knew it would have tasted better if I added it during the cooking process.

Overall
Excellent BBQ sauce with a great kick! There's only a few BBQ sauces I like. I look for all natural ingredients and a good consistency and sheen that are not a result of corn syrup. The next thing I look for is heat. E.Z. Earl has done it! Hot sauce lovers will welcome the heat and bold flavor, and BBQ lovers will throw their Kraft Thick'n Spicy in the trash.

Accolades
Gold Medal - "Best of Show" - Northwest Foodservice Show

Coming Soon
Part 2 of this review, where I will actually cook with this sauce. Also, a review of E.Z. Earl's Smokin-Hot Stuff.

[kato]

E.Z.

You were correct a great review. Will be trying soon can hardly wait.

Mick
Kato's

[E.Z. Earl]

Sorry for the delay in acknowledging the great review. I am working the Seattle Coffee Fest this weekend with our Stirling Gourmet Syrups (coffee flavorings). I feel like I have been drug through a knothole by day's end. Strangely, the "java-heads" (as mentioned in the "Saga of E.Z. Earl" on my bottle label) are still avid "chili-heads" 15 years later. I was amazed :shocked: how many bottles of Hot Stuff (...er..Sauce) we sold at a show where it isn't being featured! :) As I always say, the most important ingredient in a foodstuff is QUALITY. It always sells!

Anyway, thanks for the kind words. I believe the best still lies ahead when you get a chance to actually cook with the sauce.
- E.Z.

[Ryan@angrypepper]

So Earl, when can we expect to see "E.Z. Earl's Wired Coffee Stuff"? :-P

[E.Z. Earl]

I have just tested the first batch of "Blazin-Hot Coffee". Here is the results: :shocked: (may need some revision work ;) - E.Z.

[sevver]

Very interesting, I love my coffee in the morning and that sounds great.

[thehotpepper.com]

I wanted to update this review after cooking with the sauce. I won't be able to fire up the grill for awhile, so indoor cooking will have to suffice. Just wanted to see how this sauce performed as a cooking sauce. I used a cast iron grill to cook a boneless, skinless chicken breast. Boring, I know... but I knew E.Z.'s sauce would take care of that. It was delicious! All of the same flavors are present, but they all come together as one great flavor. It binds to the chicken very well, as you can see in the finished product. Either this sauce gets hotter as you cook it, or I didn't have enough of it last time, but my lips are still tingling! Can't wait for summer!

[sevver]

Looks positively yummy.

[Sickmont]

I'm really excited when I find a BBQ sauce that has all natural ingredients, and no high-fructose corn syrup, or regular corn syrup.


That is a big stickler for me and BBQ sauce as well....i can't stand any of the "fillers"

[dreamtheatervt]

High-fructose corn syrup is nasty. Gives you the calories, but it doesn't tell your body to stop being hungry.

If you go to a Barnes and Noble, pick up a copy of "The Abs Diet", its a orange paper-back. If you ever want to know why people are getting fat, read up on HFCS and trans-fat. It's like a nutritional scared straight program.

[E.Z. Earl]

I wanted to update this review after cooking with the sauce. I won't be able to fire up the grill for awhile, so indoor cooking will have to suffice. Just wanted to see how this sauce performed as a cooking sauce. I used a cast iron grill to cook a boneless, skinless chicken breast. Boring, I know... but I knew E.Z.'s sauce would take care of that. It was delicious! All of the same flavors are present, but they all come together as one great flavor. It binds to the chicken very well, as you can see in the finished product. Either this sauce gets hotter as you cook it, or I didn't have enough of it last time, but my lips are still tingling! Can't wait for summer!

:) Knew you would find the cooked sauce even more flavorful and hotter. That was a major R&D objective for me. Now it gets even better. Wait until you can BBQ with it! Thanks! - E.Z.

[DevilDuck]

Damn....I'm getting a bottle. I have BBQ weather here almost year 'round.

[joobie]

it's definitely good stuff. like has been mentioned i would consider it to be more of a bbq sauce than a straight hot sauce, but it's dome of the best non-homemade bbq i've tasted (and it does have a great heat level).

[chuk hell]

Just got my package today. Much obliged Earl! I was feeling left out of the party!

I opened it up and licked it off the seal paperr thingy. Smokey....a little sweet...and warm. Mmmm...warm. A nice comfortable building heat that is making me happy all over.

Will the extract screw with my stomach? I'll know in about 30 minutes....

I sure hope not. This stuff is good. :) I'm looking forward to enjoying this over time.

[imaguitargod]

Chuk, I have a feeling that you'll be fine with this sauce.

[chuk hell]

I am happy to report no problems! I kept eating this stuff on crackerrs and chips...it's just yummy.

I'm making carnitas on the grill tonight so I'm looking forward to trying it out on that.

[E.Z. Earl]

I am happy to report no problems! I kept eating this stuff on crackerrs and chips...it's just yummy.

I'm making carnitas on the grill tonight so I'm looking forward to trying it out on that.

So, Chuk, how did they turn out? :?:
See ya'all when I get back from a week pushing cows & doin' some hard riding down in Tucson, Arizona (If I survive!) - E.Z.

[HotSauceGoonie]

Sauce Reviewed: E.Z. Earl's Blazin-Hot Stuff
Company: Branding Iron Foods
Member: E.Z. Earl (http://www.thehotpepper.com/member.php?u=749)
Website: www.brandingironfoods.com
By: TheHotPepper.com

Ingredients: Pure white vinegar, filtered water, diced tomatoes in juice, English-Style Worchester sauce (no anchovies), secret blend of 12 natural herbs & spices, Oregon Clover honey, concentrated lemon juice, x-hot horseradish, salt, natural hickory smoke, precooked food starch, hot chili extract, natural Xanthan (as stabilizer).

First Impression
First impression is a bit confusing. What is this sauce? A BBQ sauce? A hot sauce? It says it has many uses, which I'm sure it does, but to me, this is a BBQ sauce, and a darn good one.

Label and Packaging
A huge 13.4 ounce bottle with a picture of E.Z. and the story of his sauce. Great packaging.

Appearance
I'm really excited when I find a BBQ sauce that has all natural ingredients, and no high-fructose corn syrup, or regular corn syrup. If you looked at the sauce on a spoon you wouldn't know it wasn't there. It has a great sheen, and a perfect consistency for BBQ.

Taste
Taste's like a mean no-joke BBQ sauce. Tangy, bold, and spicy. Your lips will tingle after about a minute. Very spicy, not extreme, but this isn't a hot sauce condiment, it's a cooking sauce. You can taste where the heat is coming from. For one... lots of black pepper! The black pepper tastes freshly cracked. You can also taste the horseradish. Very nice to taste a hot sauce where the black pepper and horseradish are providing a lot of the heat. There's also "hot chili extract" listed. That's what provides the lip-tingling. Smoke is listed, but it isn't a smoky sauce. The best adjective... bold!

Applications
BBQ and Bloody Marys... definitely! It also says this can be used as a condiment (and lists tacos), but to me, this is a cooking sauce. It's very potent, almost like a concentrate (with all the black pepper and spices), perfect for brushing on your BBQ'ed meats, or adding to a Bloody Mary, but a little to potent to put on top of a taco or used as a condiment in another way. I tried it on top of some pulled pork and ribs, but it was take-out (hey, who says you can't get good BBQ in NYC... check the pictures!), so I didn't get to use it as a cooking sauce. The flavor was great, but I knew it would have tasted better if I added it during the cooking process.

Overall
Excellent BBQ sauce with a great kick! There's only a few BBQ sauces I like. I look for all natural ingredients and a good consistency and sheen that are not a result of corn syrup. The next thing I look for is heat. E.Z. Earl has done it! Hot sauce lovers will welcome the heat and bold flavor, and BBQ lovers will throw their Kraft Thick'n Spicy in the trash.

Accolades
Gold Medal - "Best of Show" - Northwest Foodservice Show

Coming Soon
Part 2 of this review, where I will actually cook with this sauce. Also, a review of E.Z. Earl's Smokin-Hot Stuff.

Wondering if this is similiar to Hatari Bros. Alberta Crude.. Sort of like that smokey hot BBQ/ yet Hot sauce... Some intermediate combination going on. I do like Alberta Crude :rolleyes:

[marcosauces]

i got some peoples run around the house after tasting his stuff..haha

[E.Z. Earl]

Wondering if this is similiar to Hatari Bros. Alberta Crude.. Sort of like that smokey hot BBQ/ yet Hot sauce... Some intermediate combination going on. I do like Alberta Crude :rolleyes:

The sauce is an original, but may resemble Hatari. My base sauce is a spicy smokey-sweet cooking sauce that according to my Grandma came across the Oregon Trail from St. Louis in the 1850's with her Great Grandma. She had been told it was originally a N'Leans sauce. In 1991 I made it hot and super hot then introduced it as a test sample at the N.W. Restaurant Show in Portland. I then shelved marketing it until the 2006 N.W. Restaurant Show where it won the Gold Medal for "BEST OF SHOW".

Go to www.brandingironfoods.com and ID yourself as a THPer and I will send you a small tasting sample of each heat (same flavor). - E.Z.

[E.Z. Earl]

One of the most frequent favorable reports I receive on Blazin'-Hot Sauce is when it is used as an ingredient in beans and chili with beans. The tomatoe base if a perfect match and dead E.Z. (Uh... that doesn't mean a real dead E.Z.) - :lol: - E.Z.

[imaguitargod]

BEANS!!!!!!!! That's sounds soooooooo good. Damn you Earl! That's going to be my weekend project. Time to break out the crock pot.

[csigi_chili_sauce]

High-fructose corn syrup is nasty. Gives you the calories, but it doesn't tell your body to stop being hungry.

If you go to a Barnes and Noble, pick up a copy of "The Abs Diet", its a orange paper-back. If you ever want to know why people are getting fat, read up on HFCS and trans-fat. It's like a nutritional scared straight program.

HFCS is nasty! What pisses me off the is that going into a food store, almost EVERYTHING has HFCS! NOBODY reads labels these days! What pisses me off even more is the DISTRIBUTION crap like that gets! lol

Well, I'm working on trying to change that of course, as are many of us 'small guys' in the food industry. -Lars-

[imaguitargod]

NOBODY reads labels these days!
I am constantly reading labels. I have very strict rules as to what I will put into my body.

[thehotpepper.com]

I am constantly reading labels. I have very strict rules as to what I will put into my body.
Ditto.

[Blue's]

The sauce is an original, but may resemble Hatari. My base sauce is a spicy smokey-sweet cooking sauce that according to my Grandma came across the Oregon Trail from St. Louis in the 1850's with her Great Grandma. She had been told it was originally a N'Leans sauce. In 1991 I made it hot and super hot then introduced it as a test sample at the N.W. Restaurant Show in Portland. I then shelved marketing it until the 2006 N.W. Restaurant Show where it won the Gold Medal for "BEST OF SHOW".

Go to www.brandingironfoods.com and ID yourself as a THPer and I will send you a small tasting sample of each heat (same flavor). - E.Z.

Hey E.Z.

Just asked for samples on your site. It is much appreciated!

Blue's

[xgrafcorex]

i just received my free sample of blazin-hot sauce this afternoon. i couldn't wait to try it, so i put a bit on my finger to try before i was going to have any food. the initial taste got me to really look forward to the next meal i was going to have. i had some of the last of my chicken and was dipping pieces of it into the sauce. it was great! i was a tad worried when i read the above review say a lot of the heat came from the horseradish...i'm not a fan of horseradish at all. but i was pleasantly surprised to find that i didn't really taste the flavor of horseradish that i don't like..but i could definitely taste the heat! great flavor and solid heat..i'll be ordering a couple bottles shortly.

ez - is the smokin-hot sauce the exact same flavor as the blazin just with less heat? or does it have a bit of a smoky flavor that the blazin doesn't? and thanks for mailing me the sample. :)

edit..actually i just read above that you said they had the "same flavor."

[Shooty*]

Free sample... PAH!

Woody and I are looking forward to being able to douse liberal amounts on EVERYTHING. As soon as my brother's GF brings it back from the US of A...

[woody]

Hurry up Shooty,
i'm down to my last bottle of Defcon, i have it on everything

[tinner666]

I'm dying to try it. Earl sent us some, but the Wife does the COOKING, around here! She is planning to use it soon, she said. I will chime in when we get one opened. They're both sitting on the counter and each day she pauses and looks at them. She just saiid she will do Pork Loin tomorrow!:)

[tinner666]

Here's my 2cents worth.

EZ Earl's Smokin-Hot and Blazin-Hot Stuff. We finally opened the 2 bottles he sent us.
The wife basted 2 pork loins for cooking. One with Smokin-Hot Stuff, the other with Blazin-Hot Stuff. ( The second one was for me!)
As a baste, it worked great. The meat was tender and moist. There was a bit of heat with each sauce, but mostly flavor. I can only describe it as 'bold'. I liked it as did the wife.
Once I was finished tasting, I poured the Smokin-Hot Stuff on a section of meat and dug in. It was spicy and I was getting a bit of heat too. VERY Bold and Spicy that way.
Next, I poured Blazin-Hot Stuff on another section of loin. WOW. Bold, Spicy and HOT. I had to pause eating a few times to cool off! A great way to teach a person to eat some veggies between bites of meat!
I honestly cannot say what the flavor was other than 'Tangy'. The wife definitely liked the way it kept the meat moist. She liked the tang too. Of course, she didn't pour it on after it finished cooking either. A definite 'Must Have' for the cook who wants variety and good taste.
( Our parrot, Bubba, also gave it a thumbs up!

[E.Z. Earl]

Here's my 2cents worth.

EZ Earl's Smokin-Hot and Blazin-Hot Stuff. We finally opened the 2 bottles he sent us.
The wife basted 2 pork loins for cooking. One with Smokin-Hot Stuff, the other with Blazin-Hot Stuff. ( The second one was for me!)
As a baste, it worked great. The meat was tender and moist. There was a bit of heat with each sauce, but mostly flavor. I can only describe it as 'bold'. I liked it as did the wife.
Once I was finished tasting, I poured the Smokin-Hot Stuff on as section of meat and dug in. It was spicy adn I was getting a bit of heat too. VERY Bold and Spicy that way.
Next, I poured Blazin-Hot Stuff on another section of loin. WOW. Bold, Spicy and HOT. I had to pause eating a few times to cool off! A great way to teach a person to eat some veggies between bites of meat!
I honestly cannot say what the flavor was other than 'Tangy'. The wife definitely liked the way it kept the meat moist. She liked the tang too. Of course, she didn't pour it on after it finished cooking either. A definite 'Must Have' for the cook who wants variety and good taste.
( Our parrot, Bubba, also gave it a thumbs up!


To Tinner, Mrs. Tinerr & Bubba Tinner: Many thanks for the great review. I like the in-depth way you went about it. It has been almost a year now and the new sauces are still keeping me hopping like spit on a hot skillet!! :) - E.Z.

[tinner666]

Well, I heated some Campbell's Jamblaya Soup and poured some Blazing Stuff in there. Added great flavor, I thought, and plenty of heat. As with any 'hot' sauce, hot foods increase the heat. :)
Anyway, :idea: he does have a winner here with a great 'multi-purpose' sauce. I'll be trying it on and in other things when I can.:)

[E.Z. Earl]

Free sample... PAH!

Woody and I are looking forward to being able to douse liberal amounts on EVERYTHING. As soon as my brother's GF brings it back from the US of A...

Shooty - Did bro's g/f ever get the sauces delivered to you? Or have you received the taster samples yet? - E.Z.

[Shooty*]

Morning Earl,
I'm afraid that's a "no" on both counts :(

Have to chase brother up, actually. didn't want to bring up the samples with you in case it was like hassleing you, but I'm afraid they're a no show too.

[E.Z. Earl]

Morning Earl,
I'm afraid that's a "no" on both counts :(

Have to chase brother up, actually. didn't want to bring up the samples with you in case it was like hassleing you, but I'm afraid they're a no show too.

Okay - here is the deal. The taster samples were sent but rejected by the U.K. customs because there was no phone number on the documents for you!! :shocked: Another new security rule after 9/11, I guess. PM me with a number to use for you and I will damn well make sure you finaly get the package you've waited for so patiently :!: Can you get Woody a sample too if I send it to you? - E.Z.

[Shooty*]

Bonkers.

I'll let you have my inside leg and DNA samples shortly as well.

[E.Z. Earl]

Bonkers.

I'll let you have my inside leg and DNA samples shortly as well.

Thanks anywy, Shooty but already have a surplus of those.

Keep your eyes peeled! Over the next few day there should be a package arriving on your stoop (lord willin' and the crick don't rise!) :) Post me a notice when you get it. - E.Z.

[Shooty*]

Noted. OUr postman seems to have decided to wait now unil mid day most days before delivering. Also awaiting an extra hard drive to instal dual boot Vista on my computer.

Once the stuff I WANT to arrive has come, no doubt he'll return to his normal 8 am delivery schedule :)

Thank you, Earl.

[Shooty*]

Woody, Earl: YHM

[woody]

Danka Danka

Can't wait

[Shooty*]

Right.

I got a phone call from my wife today to say that the sauce had FINALLY arrived. For those who don't know, I had some sent to my brother's Girlfriend's family who live in North Carolina. That was way back in, like, January or something. Ages ago.

So, now it's arrived: the smoking and the blazing. After a day sat at work (with, incidentally, a massive hangover) I've finally got home to try them.

Gotta say, totally worth every minute of the wait :)

First word that came to mind: Definately tangy, which is one word THP used in his review, I noted. To my taste buds, the tangyness was tomato based. Fairly sure that was what I could taste.

The black pepper certainly comes acorss with the blazing, indeed. I've been tasting both of them the best way: dipping my finger in the bottle as we're cooking something else tonight. After a few dabs of blazing, my forehead is sweating gently, and I'm doing that breathing thing where you kind of hiss your breath in over your tongue to cool it.

I can forsee using both as condiments: I'm thinking sausages would be perfect with it.

Heatwise, I'm thinking blazing is between blair's original and after deaths, but the taste of the peppers is fantastic: there's no bitterness going on here.

So... that's my first impressions. Apologies that I'm not as competent a reviewer as the rest of y'all. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to settle down in front of the TV and maybe start swigging from the bottle

[imaguitargod]

and I'm doing that breathing thing where you kind of hiss your breath in over your tongue to cool it.
That's been termed as "the air suck".

[dreamtheatervt]

That's been termed as "the air suck".

I believe it was called "reverse blowing" in a Rolling Rock commercial. I'm still mad at those SOB's for not hiring me out of college.

[E.Z. Earl]

Right.

I got a phone call from my wife today to say that the sauce had FINALLY arrived. For those who don't know, I had some sent to my brother's Girlfriend's family who live in North Carolina. That was way back in, like, January or something. Ages ago.

So, now it's arrived: the smoking and the blazing. After a day sat at work (with, incidentally, a massive hangover) I've finally got home to try them.

Gotta say, totally worth every minute of the wait :)

First word that came to mind: Definately tangy, which is one word THP used in his review, I noted. To my taste buds, the tangyness was tomato based. Fairly sure that was what I could taste.

The black pepper certainly comes acorss with the blazing, indeed. I've been tasting both of them the best way: dipping my finger in the bottle as we're cooking something else tonight. After a few dabs of blazing, my forehead is sweating gently, and I'm doing that breathing thing where you kind of hiss your breath in over your tongue to cool it.

I can forsee using both as condiments: I'm thinking sausages would be perfect with it.

Heatwise, I'm thinking blazing is between blair's original and after deaths, but the taste of the peppers is fantastic: there's no bitterness going on here.

So... that's my first impressions. Apologies that I'm not as competent a reviewer as the rest of y'all. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to settle down in front of the TV and maybe start swigging from the bottle

Question? Is this the arrival of your original order from No. Carolina, or the last attempt by Stirling to send you a couple of bottles after the first were tossed by UK Customs? Either way, thank God you finally got some. Enjoy! - E.Z.

[Shooty*]

For the life of me, I'm not sure. I think they're the last attempt by stirling.

Update: It's a bank holiday here. I was planning on BBqing, but it's about to rain heavily.

So... today, I had blazing hot on a tuna/mayo/sweetcorn sandwich. Yes, I know, it's a little odd, but I'm the kind of guy who adds defcon 2 to scrambled eggs, and has jalapeno death on toast.

Be that as it may, Blazing Hot works superbly on tuna mayo. You heard it here first. Try it.

[E.Z. Earl]

For the life of me, I'm not sure. I think they're the last attempt by stirling.

Update: It's a bank holiday here. I was planning on BBqing, but it's about to rain heavily.

So... today, I had blazing hot on a tuna/mayo/sweetcorn sandwich. Yes, I know, it's a little odd, but I'm the kind of guy who adds defcon 2 to scrambled eggs, and has jalapeno death on toast.

Be that as it may, Blazing Hot works superbly on tuna mayo. You heard it here first. Try it.

Shooty - Stirling advised me they sent you a full carton for your patience, so you still have the G/F's carton you bought kicking around So. Carolina somewhere. Now you will for sure have enough to share with Woody :lol: - E.Z.

[Shooty*]

I am humbled by their generosity: Any wait was of my making, not theirs at all.

Many thanks to you and them, Earl.

[E.Z. Earl]

Here is a strange happening. Mark from Stirling Foods was having dinner at the "13 Coins", a high end Seattle restaurant, last night when here struck up a converstion with the guy and his wife at the adjoining table. He mention E.Z.'s hot sauces and gave them a taster sample. The guy went bonkers and ordered 20 cases right then and there (on a credit card)to send out across his comapny. He said if it went as well as he expected he would be back to buy a pallet (200 cases). Turned out he is the CEO of a large national corporation involved in petrolium, foods, etc. Also owns a large winery "just for fun" :shocked:

Now that is some dinner converstion :lol: - E.Z.

[woody]

Its the age old saying "Its not what you know....but who you know"
Well done to you, keep us posted

[xgrafcorex]

wow! that is great news. i hope they like your sauce as much as i do! :D good luck, and keep us posted on the results.

[imaguitargod]

Ha ha! What great news!!!!!!!!!!! Yes yes! Please keep us all updated on this subject!! Hey, if you need a reviewer to be flown out to the winery to do an indepth drunken....errr....well done coverage for you, you got my number and website ;)

[xgrafcorex]

did he try the blazin or the smokin?

[Sickmont]

Nice!!! I wish i could strike up an occasional conversation like that for my business, but i guess nobody in a dive bar is going to have the cash to have a custom paint job done on their bike or car. And yes, keep us posted on how this pans out.

[E.Z. Earl]

did he try the blazin or the smokin?

Both. In fact the order was for 10cases of each to evaluate with his people. I will keep you all posted on how this goes.

(It isn't a problem that his company is based in Nigeria, is it? :lol: (Just kidding.) - E.Z.