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thakswet
09-18-2006, 06:06 PM
anybody try this and can anybody discuss this with me?

Thinking of trying it out during the holiday season.

thehotpepper.com
09-18-2006, 06:11 PM
Sounds like a good idea! Free sauce/salsa samples would be a hit! I'd serve them with some chips, then you could sell the chips too.

Cap'n Bones
09-18-2006, 07:23 PM
It sounds like a really good idea thak.
Need to keep a sharp eye out for folks trying to slip the bottles into their pockets and little kids grabbing at stuff. May want to have a helper to assist you.
Keep us informed on what you decide to do.

thakswet
09-18-2006, 09:13 PM
I meet with mall reps tomorrow and will be asking about sample giveaways and type of security available to the Kiosks.

keep em coming. thanks u guys.

huvason
09-19-2006, 07:02 AM
I meet with mall reps tomorrow and will be asking about sample giveaways and type of security available to the Kiosks.

keep em coming. thanks u guys.

Just watch out for those pesky health inspectors and FDA.... You will probably need a special permit for tasting.

sevver
09-19-2006, 08:53 AM
Tasting would be daring I would think. You know that there are people who will make a scene and need something to drink. Or what if someone pukes all over your stuff? I think that a hot sauce kiosk sounds good though, I just would not do any sort of tasting. As the others said, sauce, chips, and maybe some chili knick knack stuff: ties, stuffed chilies, undies etc. Good luck.
And a couple of dummy cameras would help too, keeps the honest people honest.

marcosauces
09-19-2006, 09:38 AM
Thakswet,
we tried to do something like that, but the requirements from the city and Health Dept. killed pretty much our idea. We needed to buy refrig. equipment in order to keep our samples below 45 degrees and the food permit thru the town were just too much money for us. Make sure you check with those two entities first, maybe in your juristiction those requirements are not needed, never know. Hope this helps.

thakswet
09-19-2006, 02:32 PM
Just got home from the meeting.

Sampling is out of the question.

and here's the pricing:

2K security deposit on the CART....a CART not a Kiosk.
$750 registration fee includes two signs and help from a mall decorator.
2.2K for October rent
7.5K per month for Nov, Dec, Jan.
No Negotiations.
Staff has to wear Mall Outfits.

We've decided to look into a different direction right now.

any suggestions?

imaguitargod
09-19-2006, 02:34 PM
We've decided to look into a different direction right now.

any suggestions?
Ya...look over there --->

;)

Have you looked into selling online?

marcosauces
09-19-2006, 03:41 PM
ya thakswet...we never got that far....

Cap'n Bones
09-19-2006, 06:27 PM
Just got home from the meeting.

Sampling is out of the question.

and here's the pricing:

2K security deposit on the CART....a CART not a Kiosk.
$750 registration fee includes two signs and help from a mall decorator.
2.2K for October rent
7.5K per month for Nov, Dec, Jan.
No Negotiations.
Staff has to wear Mall Outfits.

We've decided to look into a different direction right now.

any suggestions?

:shocked: Whoa!! Man that's some steep rate's for a cart! Make's you wonder how many styro-foam glider's the non english speaking vendor's have to sell in order to pay their fees! AND the same for the cell phone sales creeps and the Cookie pushers! That's a rip off. And to top it off, a "Mall Outfit"! PLEASE! They should be paying the vendor's a fee for wearing their tacky uniform! What a bunch of money whores!

Ahhh! Now I feel much better..You seem so calm about it thak. I would have freaked! Yeah I guess looking in another direction would be a good idea. If you have any local Farmer's Markets or "nice" flea markets, also local fall and holiday festivals would be some options for an affordable retail set up, especially if you just want to do it during the holiday months. Cap'n

Hillbilly Chili
09-19-2006, 06:31 PM
lmao Cell phone creeps and cookie pushers...:lol:
good one Cap'n

darthcarl
09-20-2006, 02:00 AM
I checked it out here a few months ago. prices were aboput the same here in AZ. on the other hand the hickory farms guy runs for 3 months and makes 300k. of course thats a franchise thats hard to get into but still...

thehotpepper.com
09-20-2006, 02:34 AM
Just got home from the meeting.

Sampling is out of the question.

and here's the pricing:

2K security deposit on the CART....a CART not a Kiosk.
$750 registration fee includes two signs and help from a mall decorator.
2.2K for October rent
7.5K per month for Nov, Dec, Jan.
No Negotiations.
Staff has to wear Mall Outfits.

We've decided to look into a different direction right now.

any suggestions?

Holiday shopping prices, that's why. You could make a killing though if it's a big mall!

Sickmont
09-20-2006, 08:13 AM
Just got home from the meeting.

Sampling is out of the question.

and here's the pricing:

2K security deposit on the CART....a CART not a Kiosk.
$750 registration fee includes two signs and help from a mall decorator.
2.2K for October rent
7.5K per month for Nov, Dec, Jan.
No Negotiations.
Staff has to wear Mall Outfits.

We've decided to look into a different direction right now.

any suggestions?

I don't blame you one bit for looking somewhere else...
And, to top it off, i seriously don't think i can handle being in a freakin mall for 8 hours at a clip...i'd shoot myself first

DEFCON Creator
09-20-2006, 08:41 AM
Malls suck!

Hillbilly Chili
09-20-2006, 09:03 AM
Yeah…bunch of Craft Queer, Cookie Pushin Pimps, Cell Slut Creeps, Hickory Dickory Dealin Weenies anyhow! Who need em?
I’m with you DEFCON
Did I say that out loud?:shocked:

Hillbilly Chili
09-20-2006, 09:04 AM
In umppa suits.

DEFCON Creator
09-20-2006, 10:30 AM
Malls are merely the dwelling places for the lemmings who shouldn't be allowed to procreate. Oh what a joy it is, during the holiday season, seeing the mile-long line of cars, owned by the cranially-challenged, waiting for a parking space that doesn't exist. Not to mention the amazing fashion statements one finds within the walls of one of these Bastions Of The Inept. It's like a really bad version of Night of the Living Dead, complete with the aimlessly walking pseudo-bipeds, in their never ending quest for something they don't know they are looking for.

marcosauces
09-20-2006, 11:04 AM
Malls are merely the dwelling places for the lemmings who shouldn't be allowed to procreate. Oh what a joy it is, during the holiday season, seeing the mile-long line of cars, owned by the cranially-challenged, waiting for a parking space that doesn't exist. Not to mention the amazing fashion statements one finds within the walls of one of these Bastions Of The Inept. It's like a really bad version of Night of the Living Dead, complete with the aimlessly walking pseudo-bipeds, in their never ending quest for something they don't know they are looking for.

I bet you go do your shopping at the mall John... :lol:

imaguitargod
09-20-2006, 11:08 AM
Malls are merely the dwelling places for the lemmings who shouldn't be allowed to procreate. Oh what a joy it is, during the holiday season, seeing the mile-long line of cars, owned by the cranially-challenged, waiting for a parking space that doesn't exist. Not to mention the amazing fashion statements one finds within the walls of one of these Bastions Of The Inept. It's like a really bad version of Night of the Living Dead, complete with the aimlessly walking pseudo-bipeds, in their never ending quest for something they don't know they are looking for.
:clap:

Sickmont
09-20-2006, 11:09 AM
Malls are merely the dwelling places for the lemmings who shouldn't be allowed to procreate. Oh what a joy it is, during the holiday season, seeing the mile-long line of cars, owned by the cranially-challenged, waiting for a parking space that doesn't exist. Not to mention the amazing fashion statements one finds within the walls of one of these Bastions Of The Inept. It's like a really bad version of Night of the Living Dead, complete with the aimlessly walking pseudo-bipeds, in their never ending quest for something they don't know they are looking for.

I agree completely with you....thats why i'm killing myself trying to get my daughter to quit being a mall-rat.

Hillbilly Chili
09-20-2006, 11:23 AM
Running for my dictionary:oops:
Thanks a lot DEFCON:)

DEFCON Creator
09-21-2006, 06:42 AM
Not a problem, had to vent...

ross
09-21-2006, 01:05 PM
if you had a stand in a mall i would never go there, because i dont go to the mall :lol:

thehotpepper.com
09-22-2006, 10:10 PM
Are you selling your own sauces, or selling brand name sauces? The reason I ask is there are better ways you can go about this, especially if it's your sauce.

thakswet
09-24-2006, 05:28 PM
Selling all types of other people's hot sauce. We came up with an idea that we think is going to work.

Cap'n Bones
09-24-2006, 05:51 PM
Wish you the best thak!
It's difficult to live and breath peppers and hot sauce, and not get directly involved in the industry in some form or another. It just seems to happen when ya become addicted to the Precious..The Almighty Pepper!! :mouthonfire:

tinner666
09-26-2006, 05:27 AM
I looked onto it once and got about the same figures. Way over my head. I'm already on a shoestring. Needed nearly 40K to 'start', with 2 or 3 months paid in advance. :( And I don't even like malls, but as John said, they're full of lemmings looking for 'something'.
At least, the one kiosh selling sauces could allow sampling. But they are very diversified. But to pull in the money needed to operate, based on wholesale costs of 50% of retail, you need to plan on another 5K, month, just to almost break even and get minimum wage.
I fell guilty enough charging $6. for a bottle of some sauces, but I see the booths charging $10 for the same sauces.:confused:
Extracts can last a long time, but some people use a bottle of Dave's Ginger Peach in a day! I have one customer who buys it by the case, and a restaurant trying a few sauces I gave them.
So far, I'm sticking to carrying sauce I love and folks at the resort give great marks to. Pricing is lower from each manufacturer, per item, too. A shotgun approach is to order from a central distributor, such as http://www.hotshotshotsauce.com/, paying slightly more for each sauce, but getting a wider selection. I may go that route later, but to get good pricing, I need to order 10 to 15 cases at a time.
Anyway, I hope you do well, and maybe we can even help each other out someway. :)

Denio
09-26-2006, 03:18 PM
Just got home from the meeting.

Sampling is out of the question.

and here's the pricing:

2K security deposit on the CART....a CART not a Kiosk.
$750 registration fee includes two signs and help from a mall decorator.
2.2K for October rent
7.5K per month for Nov, Dec, Jan.
No Negotiations.
Staff has to wear Mall Outfits.

We've decided to look into a different direction right now.

any suggestions?

For that kind of money you might look into local advertising of your product.

Maybe you can talk the manager of the local Costco or Sam's Club into letting you do a tasting that they are so famous for...

(I am sure their corporate lawyers would go "non-linear" on something like that)

Try a local or independent grocery store into carrying your product and you do the promo booth with a tasting and buy back the inventory if they want out after six months..

I wish you luck.. it's not going to be easy. Jim

chuk hell
09-29-2006, 06:06 PM
From What I understand it costs money to get in major retail places like Costco as well. For those of us starting small that's probably a long way down the ole chile road.

marcosauces
09-29-2006, 08:05 PM
Costco wants to be 80-100% of your business....You need to be ready to drop 50 pallets at their warehouse..!!

DEFCON Creator
09-29-2006, 09:03 PM
Ok.

Denio
09-29-2006, 09:09 PM
I think the Creator meant to say OK

imaguitargod
09-30-2006, 11:23 AM
I think the Creator meant to say OK
LOL. If they wanted to, Creator, could you get 50 pallets for them?

DEFCON Creator
10-01-2006, 06:15 AM
Give me 2 weeks. With that amount, it would have to be prepaid.

marcosauces
10-01-2006, 08:56 AM
:)