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skippyp
08-17-2006, 06:19 PM
Different peppers hit the taste buds differently. I know habaneros get me in the back of my throat while black pepper is right in the mouth. Also, some peppers tend to have delayed heat onset while others are right away.
Anyone ever seen a map that shows where each pepper variety hits the senses and the heat onset? That sure would be a terrific reference. (all I've ever seen is the scoville heat scale)

Cap'n Bones
08-17-2006, 10:06 PM
Must say that I've never heard of a mouth map. It is always an interesting conversation when discussing this subject with chilehead friends.
Sauces do the same type of thing. Red Savina sauces hit me on every surface. Cajohn's Fatalii Puree only affects my tounge, while the rest of the mouth feels normal. My wife isn't affected at all by the Fatalii, while a quality Red Sav sauce is over the top in terms of heat for her, I can't figure that one out.

POTAWIE
08-18-2006, 06:40 AM
I find the habs hit the back of the throat a lot while scotch bonnets hit more the front or sides of the mouth. Very interesting topic for those trying to blend flavors and heat levels.

setzuanfire
08-18-2006, 02:00 PM
Capsaicin is actually 5 compounds called capsaicinoids that have distinctly different 'tastes' and effects. Each chile variety has different levels and combinations of these compounds, which explains why some people can handle fatalii but not savina, etc. My girlfriend can handle only so much jalapeno and serrano, but can match any serious hab-head pod for pod. I think the tongue-map is a great idea! It would make a good fridge magnet or poster. brookthecook

DaveinCoalinga
08-18-2006, 10:27 PM
The worst pepper I have ever had for burn was a Black Pearl. Felt like the skin was getting ripped off the middle of my tounge. Yet my Carribean Red I grow is about as punchless as my 13 year old housecat. Dunno, kinda odd.

darthcarl
08-18-2006, 10:47 PM
I have seen the idea discussed but never graphically. brookthecook can you site your source? I knew that also but have no idea where I learned it.

imaguitargod
08-23-2006, 11:23 AM
habaneros get me in the back of my throat while black pepper is right in the mouth.
Keep in mind that Black Pepper is not a pepper at all. It was misslabeled when it was named.

darthcarl
08-23-2006, 05:26 PM
Keep in mind that Black Pepper is not a pepper at all. It was misslabeled when it was named.

backwards but funny

imaguitargod
08-23-2006, 08:31 PM
backwards but funny
Ok, I don't get the backwards or funny bit, but it is true. :?:

darthcarl
08-24-2006, 02:20 AM
Ok, I don't get the backwards or funny bit, but it is true. :?:

Black pepper was around first. A crazy Italian, working for Spain, thought he was in the Indies. He took some pepper plants, probably piquin, back to Europe with him. It was called red pepper either as a genuine mis-understanding or some believe as a marketing ploy against the ubiquitous peppercorn.

setzuanfire
08-25-2006, 11:01 PM
I have seen the idea discussed but never graphically. brookthecook can you site your source? I knew that also but have no idea where I learned it.
Lessee-NMSU (Chile Pepper Inst.) or Texas A&M would have detailed info on the different capsaicinoids, although I don't know if anyone's 'mapped' the tongue for these compounds. That's a good place to start, or maybe some of the growers in the Netherlands, they're pretty intense botanists. brookthecook

setzuanfire
08-25-2006, 11:09 PM
Black pepper was around first. A crazy Italian, working for Spain, thought he was in the Indies. He took some pepper plants, probably piquin, back to Europe with him. It was called red pepper either as a genuine mis-understanding or some believe as a marketing ploy against the ubiquitous peppercorn.
The Portuguese helped with the confusion: There's a plant with red 'peppercorns' from Africa they called Melegueta (known in Elizabethan England) and a Brazilian peqin-type they called Malagueta. Yikes! brookthecook

stew007
08-27-2006, 05:36 AM
The worst pepper I have ever had for burn was a Black Pearl

This is one of the peppers im growing next year, it's jet black, leaves and all!!

http://www.reimerseeds.com/black-pearl-hot-peppers-pvp.aspx

http://www.chillisgalore.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2071

Stew

DaveinCoalinga
08-27-2006, 09:28 PM
Yeah the black pearl is a beautiful plant. But as far as taste, it is nothing special. A lot of different peppers are hotter and effect the whole mouth. That black pearl, like I said was like ripping the skin off the center of my tounge. Wierd, and not good.

willard3
08-27-2006, 10:08 PM
Read here about Reimer's seeds before you purchase:

http://davesgarden.com/gwd/c/1681/

POTAWIE
08-28-2006, 10:13 AM
Read here about Reimer's seeds before you purchase:

http://davesgarden.com/gwd/c/1681/

Alright. I'm going to have to add my complaints to the list.

Tina Brooks
08-28-2006, 02:34 PM
I have a black pearl growing in my kitchen window. It might not be the best tasting pepper going, but it sure is pretty.

T

imaguitargod
08-28-2006, 04:11 PM
I just received/stole some seeds from the Cleveland Zoo for the Black Pearl...I'm going to plant them this year and overwinter them.